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FT: Frame (Twin) Early Rapide research - 1947

craig

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The Motor Cycle magazine May 29, 1947
Is the engine number known on the Rapide tested in this issue of The Motor Cycle? Specifically the left and right side photos.
No water excluders, horizontal rear stand mount, Miller 42E, and simply the date will make this fairly low number Rapide.
Can anyone supply the engine numbers of any period photos (1947) of 47 B Rapides?
UK magazines, Australian mags, USA mags, German, Swedish, Italian, Spanish, etc?
Thanks
Craig
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craig

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Were the HRD tank top decals used on the steering head of early Rapides? I see most restorations have this steering head decal, but were they originally placed there?
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craig

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There is a series of well known factory photos that appear to be taken at the same date in 1947. I am unsure of the number of photos that relate to this date, but it looks like early 1947. Is this date known? here is one of the series, and is there a web location for hi-res copies of these for all?
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craig

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The early B Rapides do not appear to have a needle valve to control rear chain oil. Is this correct?
If so, it looks like this was added at UFM R3800............so about 1800 Vincents were built before this chain drip needle was added.
 
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Albervin

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I understand all Series Bs UFMs had no needle valve control. Along with the frame number this is what differentiates a B from a C.
 

greg brillus

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Also no slot in the middle of the spring box pivot at the rear of the upper frame as no rear shocker was fitted...
 

John Appleton

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I have a march 1949, all matching B which has the slot for rear damper and the needle valve for the chain oiler. I have owned it since 1962, and I have not modified it in these areas.
 

Ken Tidswell

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I have such an oil tank, I tried to swop it for a later version but the owner only wanted the numbered headstock.Which i bought separately it is now slotted for a
bitsa Comet I am slowly assembling, the steel plate from which it is constucted looks like the bark off a tree. I have also blocked off the rear of the tank so the oil feed cannot coat me or the bike with oil when on the move. The oil return pipe terminates in what looks like two small brazed bosses inside the tank. It took along time to get the carbon, aluminium powder,and magnetic materials out of the tank. I have a litre bottle of thinners which is still discoloured a deep red , which refuses to settle. . Ken
 

dave g6xnc

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The Motor Cycle magazine May 29, 1947
Is the engine number known on the Rapide tested in this issue of The Motor Cycle? Specifically the left and right side photos.
No water excluders, horizontal rear stand mount, Miller 42E, and simply the date will make this fairly low number Rapide.
Can anyone supply the engine numbers of any period photos (1947) of 47 B Rapides?
UK magazines, Australian mags, USA mags, German, Swedish, Italian, Spanish, etc?
Thanks
Craig
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This was the first one made they got Aurther Bourne the then editor of the "Motor Cycle" magazine round to test it which is why many bits were missing and even the petrol tank was not even painted . PCV wrote that they wantd to announce it as soon as possible to start sales off of the new model. The "Motor Cycle " was one of the two most popular magazines at the time (I had it for many years) the only "rival" was
Motor Cycling" affectionatly known as the blue one and the green one and both went on until the seventies and read by all us "old uns"! (we wernt at the time!!) and far supassed anything around today. Read "Tails of the Snarling Beast by PCV for a real insight
into the launch of the bike.
Dave G6xnc (alias dave gs in another world!! ukgser!) PS some phots in PCV's original articals published in "motor cycle sport."
 
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craig

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This was the first one made they got Aurther Bourne the then editor of the "Motor Cycle" magazine round to test it which is why many bits were missing and even the petrol tank was not even painted . PCV wrote that they wantd to announce it as soon as possible to start sales off of the new model.
Dave G6xnc (alias dave gs in another world!! ukgser!) PS some phots in PCV's original articals published in "motor cycle sport."
Hi Dave, Thanks for your reply. I am not understanding your response about "missing bits" and "tank not painted"............as the Rapide in the photos of this May 47 article have nothing missing that i can see. Are you thinking of another earlier article? maybe 1946?
Best regards
Craig
 
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Len Matthews

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Anyone out there able to post photos of the early B Rapides?
If you have a copy of "Vincent" by Duncan Wherrett (Osprey Classic Motorcycles ISBN 1-85532-330-3) the front cover and p.25 shows the sixteenth B Rapide built and the first released for sale in the UK. It was restored by Dave Quartermaine and still active with it's present owner.
 

dave g6xnc

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Yes, possibly the photo I'm refering to was the one of Arthur Bourne (the then editior of "The Motor Cycle") taking the first Rapide out of the works with a young PCV looking on what would be the very first test of the brand new machine. Famous picture it appeared in
"Tails of The Snarling Beast" by PCV amongst other articles.
 

bmetcalf

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If it is #5, it made its way to Argentina for Alex Noftsger to buy a few decades later. Any good rumors on who bought it from Alex's estate?
 

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