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chankly bore

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#2
A neat fixture. I hope you mounted the chainguard before you drilled any holes in the rear mudguard. I'm probably telling Grandma to suck eggs, but as Captain Mainwaring used to say; "you must watch these things."
 

vibrac

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Perhaps that should be positioned on the wrong side I do not have a parts list with me but I believe the lifting handle bracket is common to comet and twin (and open D) and is turned round to suit each machine and the different chainguards
 

stu spalding

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#6
Hi Tim, both my twin lifting handles have the chainguard bracket and the top mounting brackets pointing to the rear. The one in the photo is wrong. Cheers, Stu.
 

timetraveller

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#7
I think that the problem might be that if one turns the lifting handle round, the upper handle part will then be in front of the hinge and might hit the rear of the saddle. Others who have tried this will say whether this actually happens or whether one just gets away with it.
 

vibrac

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IF Eddie Stevens says its just turned round ( KTB P38) thats good enough for me. I have no idea where my comet or twins rear lifting handle originally fitted !
As I say a glance at the parts list table will prove the point I just cant find mine at the moment
 

BigEd

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IF Eddie Stevens says its just turned round ( KTB P38) thats good enough for me. I have no idea where my comet or twins rear lifting handle originally fitted !
As I say a glance at the parts list table will prove the point I just cant find mine at the moment
If you look at parts drawing MO37 the two tabs at the hinge and the tab for the chainguard lower down on the right all point backwards. In the spares list FT22AS is listed for Rapide, Shadow, Comet and Meteor.
I have a monoshock rear suspension unit and the 3" longer seat so I turned the handle around to take advantage of a little more suspension travel without the handle hitting the rear of the seat. I had to weld a new chainguard tab to the right hand side of the lifting handle. If the handle shown in the photograph of post # 1 was turned around the tabs would all point backwards and the chainguard tab would be on the left hand side and correct for a Comet. It was made for a Comet unless someone has previously removed the chainguard tab and moved it to the other side.
 

stu spalding

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Hi Ed, If the handle in the picture was turned round, the chainguard bracket would be right for a comet but the top brackets would be right for a twin, pointing backwards. I repeat, the chainguard bracket should be welded to the other stay, pointing in the same direction as the top brackets. Sorry to be such a nitpicker but if someone uses the photo for guidance they'll get it wrong. Cheers, Stu.
 

BigEd

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Hi Ed, If the handle in the picture was turned round, the chainguard bracket would be right for a comet but the top brackets would be right for a twin, pointing backwards. I repeat, the chainguard bracket should be welded to the other stay, pointing in the same direction as the top brackets. Sorry to be such a nitpicker but if someone uses the photo for guidance they'll get it wrong. Cheers, Stu.
Dear Stu,
I think that is what I said. Hmmm. The tabs in the photo all point forward. If it was turned around so that they all pointed backwards as standard the chainguard tab is correct for a Comet.

I only reversed the lifting handle on my Rapide because I wanted the hinge tabs pointing forward so the handle was further back to miss the seat on full bump. This put the chainguard tab on the wrong side which is why I had to weld it back to the right hand side.
MO37
 
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stu spalding

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The top mountings and chainguard mounting on a twin point backwards, on a Comet they point forwards. I repeat, the chainguard bracket should be on the other stay. Cheers, Stu.
 

peter holmes

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The mudguard blade seems to signify that the RFM is set up for a twin, when you look at the rear chain indent on the blade it is on the RHS, it would seem that the lifting handle has been fitted in the Comet/Meteor position to gain additional clearance when the suspension is on full bump, but to do that you have to weld an additional chain guard bracket on the RHS of the FT22AS, it would appear that that has been done, whilst also leaving the original chain guard tab, that is now on the LHS as it should be on a single.
 

powella

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#17
Thanks for all the replies - the main purpose of the photo of the RFM was to show the same frame could be used in different ways.
The RFM photo`s were just a lash - up with no bolt through the lower mudguard fixing nor any mudguard stays. Will digest forwards or backwards pointing lugs after the next glass !

Regards Alan.
 

Bill Thomas

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#19
Nice job Shane, Always good to see other blokes ideas.
I have a fixed wood Bike Lift/Bench in the Special Room, And after fitting the Rear Frame/Top tube etc,
With my Hobby Horse !, I found moving the thing forward, The front overhang was just right for building the forks, Did not plan it , But was handy.
I also thought seeing it like a Bike would get me to finish the Engine, Well that didn't work !!, Too lazy !!.
Cheers Bill.
 


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