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HB: Handlebars Hella Bar End Signals ?

Alyson

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Just curious if anyone has tried or has installed the Hella Bar End Signals to their Vincent machine ? Thanks, Alyson
 

vibrac

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Back 20 years ago in the UK before the nudge unit filled the airwaves with push bike propaganda I dont think many myopic car drivers would have any idea what an outstretched right hand meant, it had been lost in the mists of time, nowadays a lot more do have a vague idea whats going on at least thats one good thing the millions of push bikers have done.
However I dont think any one on a single track would really try the turning left waving signal and it would be an absolute nightmare in a RH drive car although i belive its in the Highway code still
 

Gary Gittleson

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How about these?

Or these?

I saw one of these setups at a motorcycle show a couple of years ago. I didn't bite.
What I do have is "hidden" LED strips as Vic mentions. In front, they're mounted on my Britax replica crash bar. In back, on the back of the D subframe. They are very visible.
 

Gary Gittleson

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Yes, Carl's solution was the inspiration. I didn't mill a slot in the bar. I just stuck them on used a couple of very small cable ties for assurance. Maybe they're not as pretty but I haven't had any comments. Or maybe I'm just not listening. :)
 

erik

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To get the wires into the handlebar I would not recommend to drill a hole in the middle between the clamps. I drilled a hole under the indicator switch to feed the Hellas with electricity. In Germany they are called Ochsenauge Blinker (oxe eye indicators). Erik
 

Peter Holmes

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I would have thought that if drilling a hole in the bars introduces any weakness at all, then drilling a hole centrally between the clamps was the best place of all, when Soichiro Honda designed his groundbreaking CB72/77 motorcycles that is exactly where he positioned the wiring access hole, only it is an oval slot accommodating some fairly heavy sheathed cable, I think Soichiro knew what he was doing. Whilst mentioning Honda, does anyone remember one of the early Honda adverts "who will win the CC vs RPM war?" a strange advert considering it featured clearly the rear view of a Vincent motorcycle with a Honda CB72/77 in the fore, probably around 1965, when Vincents had been out of production for 10 years, perhaps a Triumph or Norton etc. would have been more applicable. Does anyone have a copy of this advert, it would have been in a British publication.
 
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Peter Holmes

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Yes there was little doubt that it was a twin, but I could just about glimpse a number plate, just curious whether the bike still exists, for the period, mid sixties, it has had some unusual features added.
 

Simon Dinsdale

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I think its KJW 587 which was a Vincent registration but we don't know which one. Not on the DVLA so doesn't appear to have survived, or if it has its hiding under an age related or overseas reg.

Simon
 

Monkeypants

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While on the subject of indicators, if Alyson is going to use the bike for touring, a top box is a good place for another pair of indicators and a second brake/tail light.
The lights in the photo are all LEDs and very bright, especially the large brake light on the top box. A couple of years ago when riding in rain I got ahead of a riding buddy. This was on a stretch of busy freeway, so I pulled to the side and stopped. With the indicators in 4 way flash mode he could see the bike through the gloom from about half a mile back.Screenshot_20210215-190050.png
 

Michael Vane-Hunt

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I am waiting until some bright chap comes out with a vintage looking bar end mirror that has embedded turn signal lights both front and back with the rear facing lights under the glass. If they can make these for pickup trucks why not for vintage bikes? A pair of this type of mirror would make the need for signal lights at the back unnecessary. Also as a bonus one would very soon realize the signal was on after a turn. This type of mirror is being made for motorcycles but they are of a hideous shape. Glen, as your ability to find obscure bits and pieces, is better than mine, I am sure you will find some for me.
 

Monkeypants

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Mike, that type of signal would be excellent for the front of the bike, but I would still add some indicators at the back. The combination of amber flashing at front and red at rear really seems to wake people up.
Note that police cars use a very bright combination of light colours.
This bike also has 2 pairs of amber LEDs mounted to the crash bars near the ends.
I find that car drivers do see and react to the indicators when on this bike, moreso than on the modern bikes, which have way less lumens flashing.
It's a good feeling when the car driver in the other lane sees your indicator and makes space for you.
It's a horrible feeling when they don't notice the indicator or an outstretched arm and nearly run over you!

Glen
 

erik

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@ Peter .ihave the hole very close to the twistgrip and never had a Problem with a weak handlebar in the last 34 years with my commando, doing About 200000 miles with it.erik
 

Peter Holmes

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In my humble opinion, without any doubt the very best indicators out there are made by Kellermann, very very bright in use, but almost invisible when not in use, only 10mm diameter max, the lens diameter is 7.8mm diameter, they do an indicator version only for around £60.00 per unit, so £240.00 to do a bike with 4, or if you are really flush with money they do a 3 in one version with additional rear light, stop light and indicator for around £90.00 per unit, so £360.00 to do a bike, the model is Kellermann Bullet Atto, they are very good indeed, and so they should be at that price.
 

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