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Fuel Tanks

ah_sprite

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Hi all,
I'm a 16 year old mad-keen enthusiast of Vincents (rather unusual, I know!), living in Cumbria, UK.
I'm not an owner of a 'cycle yet but I dream of owning one one day. I currently have a '67 MGB GT and a '70 Midget which I'll be using once I pass my test (25 days 'til my 17th Birthday!).

Whilst owning a Vincent is currently out of the equation, I was wondering what sort of money I'd be looking at for a fuel tank for any model?
This'd be purely for decoration.

I've seen this one on eBay, but realise this isn't a genuine Vincent item, and probably from a custom bike:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1960s-Vincent...ryZ36796QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
 

Tnecniv Edipar

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16 YO Vinny fanatic is unusual in the extreme , but just what the club needs for it's future !! Your very welcome here , but beware , when Vincents get into your blood there is no turning back !!
Fuel tank is basically the same on all post war models , the Comet included. You would pay upwards of £500 for one in good condition. Repro's are being made though.
 

deejay499

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Hi Ah Sprite. Welcome to our pages. Good to hear from a young un. Where did your interest come from? As Tnecniv said, beware, it is contagious.
I was interested in Vincents when leaving school at 15, got a Rapide and Steib outfit a couple of years later, which was my first bike to learn on. That was 1962 and have had one ever since. Easy to get into bad habits!
Perhaps someone local will get in touch and give you a ride.:cool:
Good luck.
 

ah_sprite

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VOC Member
Hi all,
Thanks for the warm welcome!
I've always had a passive interest in proper 'cycles, until about 6 months ago when I started looking more into them and learning more about them. It was at this point that I discovered Vincents! I'm a classic car man at heart, and I've already owned 10 cars. DeeJay, you're a lucky bloke to have had a Vin' at that age!

Does anyone know of any locals that own Vincents? I'm near Barrow in Furness in South Cumbria.

I really fancy something very old and british to restore now that I've just finished my 'BGT that had been standing since '78! (by the way, I have a blog for that car here: http://www.1798ccdustymagiccarpet.blogspot.com)

Oh well, I guess even a basket-case Vincent is way out of my price range; I can but dream!

Rich
 

Tnecniv Edipar

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Regrettably that is now the problem with ambition to own a Vincent , they have become so valuable. Vincents appeared on my radar at around 20 , it took me 10 years to bite the money bullet and buy one. The logic being , if I don't do it now I may never be able to !! SO glad I did now that any post war twin is £20k + !!!
Personally, I think that even now they are undervalued , with Broughs fetching £100k I reckon it won't be long before Vincents ascend to greatly beyond their current price. Broughs are nice but they are still not really thoroughbred in the sense that Vincents are.
I'd like to suggest possibilities for your restoration project , so how old are you thinking ?
 

ah_sprite

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Feel free to make some suggestions!

To be perfectly honest, somethingn from early sixties backwards would be ideal. Something which has proper soul and character, along with super styling!
 

Tnecniv Edipar

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Feel free to make some suggestions!

To be perfectly honest, somethingn from early sixties backwards would be ideal. Something which has proper soul and character, along with super styling!
This is never easy but here goes.
Triumph Tiger Cub & BSA Bantam are the default first classics for many. The Cub has great style as do most of the Edward Turner era Triumphs. I have a Bantam and love it to bits !!
Matchless singles , as an unorthodox choice how about a WD G3L !! This is the second world war military machine , very interesting as a restoration project , funky and very nice to ride although styling is not really applicable !!
Ariel Arrow !! Uber styled machine and very advanced for it's time. I rode one of these a few years ago and was captivated by it's style and handling.
Triumph Daytona , slick styling , frisky performance , great handling , nice sound !!
This is mad , but ticks the soul and character boxes well !! Velocette LE !! I will say no more just look it up !!
 

ah_sprite

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VOC Member
Thanks for the quick reply.

Yes, Cubs and Bantams could be a good choice, seeing as parts etc are easily available andh there's a big following for them!
I also love the idea of a Daytona, again, beautiful styling and a great sound!

Not a huge fan of the Ariel Arrow, its styling doesn't do a lot for me to be honest.

Not sure about the Velocette LE, though! :p Not really my thing..!
 
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Tnecniv Edipar

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Ok , got an idea of your preferences now. Will post up some more suggestions later. As you like the Daytona though , a cheaper option would be the Triumph 21 , almost the same machine but cheaper to buy as the London West End lot don't like them !!
 

Len Matthews

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The fact that AH Sprite is only sixteen and owns two sports cars which presumably he will drive under supervision when he reaches seventeen on a provisional licence highlights the situation facing novice motorcyclists. At sixteen, one can apply for M/C provisional licence but are restricted to a 50cc machine. Twelve months later you are allowed a 125. You can't go beyond that until you have taken a training course (CBT) for which there is a charge and the DOT Driving Test. I have nothing against that;training must be good thing. My point is why aren't novice car drivers required to do the same?
At present there nothing to stop a seventeen year old from taking to the road in something very powerful provided he's got a qualified driver with him and displaying L plates.
Having had a moan about that, I hope AH Sprite will keep up his enthusiasm for Vincents-I wanted one from the age of eleven!:)
 
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Tnecniv Edipar

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Practically there is a restriction on the type of car a learner can drive , insurance cost !! Unless he or she has very wealthy (and stupid !) parents they won't be able to insure anything pokey !! Agreed though , there should be a formal limit on the performance of any vehicle a learner or recently qualified driver can use.
 

ah_sprite

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VOC Member
Yes, insurance is a real worry for all youngsters.
However, I've discovered that Footman James can insure me on my two MGs for a very reasonable amount, on classic car insurance.
It's so cheap for a number of reasons:

1) anyone with any interest in historic or classic vehicles is likely to respect their car, and therefore drive it more carefully

2) Someone that's my age with a car like the ones I've got are unlikely to make a claim if they write it off, as when the insurance came around the next year, it'd be ridiculous!

I know many people who pay up to and over £2k to insure their 1.2 Corsas and Saxos for a year, while I'll be paying in the region of £800 for two cars, under my own name.
 

johncrispin

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enthusiast

Hang on in there young fella ! Stay close to your fellow club members and get your bike test sorted. Heartwarming to see one so young, in the club. I did not think a twin Vin was achievable but managed to buy one, and not at a silly price.( I will tell you about it if you send a PM) Much of the above advice I would agree with and the AMC motorcycles are well provided for spares wise and are as undervalued as Vins are overvalued. My only dislike of the AMC products from the 60's is the unit singles, a total disaster of a motorcycle. I speak from experience of a Model 8 AJS, although I suppose they can be sorted, a decent set of flywheels might make a good start. The non unit singles are excellent, sound as a bell. Personally I would steer clear of two strokes especially British other than perhaps the Bantam which has DKW lineage.
 

johncrispin

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scotts

Hugo,
I knew I would be wrong ! drat ! absolutely right Hugo, but I was trying to stay in the realms of machinery a youngster could afford, Scotts now are at a price level way above the AMC products and I am sure you would agree are an acquired taste ( as are Vins when all said and done) and need some sympathetic treatment. I got into old bikes by reading PEI tuning for speed with the idea of wringing a bit more performance from a Bantam. In that famous tome he mentioned Rudges and I then overheard of a good runner for sale, went for it and at £35 was way over my apprentices budget. I was obviously so crestfallen at this the vendor took pity and said as he pointed to a leaky old shed." There is most of an Ulster in there. Give me ten pounds (still a lot of money even then) and help yourself", and hurry up, I leave for OZ in a fortnight! The long restoration process started there and I learned that beautiful quality Brit bikes with plenty of go in them were made in the thirties.
The restored machine took to the road in the mid eighties after loads of expensive restoration (for me anyway) and I loved it.
But what the hell chance does any such interested youngster have of following that path now? Sorry, I've had it with all the lectures about market values, I do have a grasp of basic economics after all, but the whole 'wots it worth' caper makes me puke, Its an old motorbike for goodness sake! I fear our young enthusiast will ultimately depart from a realistically unattainable goal, and if he persists with bikes (after all the test rigmarole) stick to the stuff obtainable at realistic and achievable values and his MGB's
 

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