First Black Shadow - Stevenage workers

Marcus Bowden

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The history is interesting, Isinglass I always thought was used to preserve eggs in, I honestly don't know what the contents of Isinglass is, it just looks and feels like strange water to me.
 

Garth Robinson

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The history is interesting, Isinglass I always thought was used to preserve eggs in, I honestly don't know what the contents of Isinglass is, it just looks and feels like strange water to me.
Yes,when I was a kid my mother used to buy stuff called Ke-peg,in a little bottle like a Vaseline jar,it must have been to seal the pores to stop them going off.It didn't always work!
 

brian gains

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The history is interesting, Isinglass I always thought was used to preserve eggs in, I honestly don't know what the contents of Isinglass is, it just looks and feels like strange water to me.
some fish product derivative isn't it?. Blowed if I know how how any of the internal engine nasties let alone the heat wouldn't act as a solvent.
Or have I been duped by the renowned VOC sense of humour again.
 

timetraveller

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In one of the musical films,probably in the forties or fifties there is a line on one song refering to riding in an open carriage ' and Isignlasss curtains to pull right down in case there is a change in the weather', So it seems to be able to be made into a transparent, waterproof sheet,

See;
Isinglass is a substance obtained from the dried swim bladders of fish. It is a form of collagen used mainly for the clarification or fining of some beer and wine. It can also be cooked into a paste for specialised gluing purposes. The English word origin is from the obsolete Dutch huizenblaas – huizen is a kind of sturgeon, and blaas is a bladder, or German Hausenblase, meaning essentially the same
 

Hugo Myatt

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In one of the musical films,probably in the forties or fifties there is a line on one song refering to riding in an open carriage ' and Isignlasss curtains to pull right down in case there is a change in the weather', So it seems to be able to be made into a transparent, waterproof sheet,

See;
Isinglass is a substance obtained from the dried swim bladders of fish. It is a form of collagen used mainly for the clarification or fining of some beer and wine. It can also be cooked into a paste for specialised gluing purposes. The English word origin is from the obsolete Dutch huizenblaas – huizen is a kind of sturgeon, and blaas is a bladder, or German Hausenblase, meaning essentially the same
Many years ago I was also led to believe isinglass was used though where I gained the information I can not remember. The song TT mentions comes from the musical 'Oklahoma' however in the USA isinglass was also sometimes used to mean mica.
 

bmetcalf

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At industrial fish processors, surely many fish internals are harvested rather than just disposed of like an angler does. With bonuses if you ship more than your quota of bladders, livers, etc.!
 

Prince Duster

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Hi all.
Fascinating debate.
From the conversations Gerry and I had while making our documentary, I think Marcus is right. And Marcus spent a good deal of time talking with PCV.
The consensus we found was stamps - all - were made at the factory
Our interviews included Jack Furness (foreman), Hans Edwards (drawing office), John Surtees (apprentice - racer), Christine Howard (drawing office), Ernie Allen (tool-maker - Ted Davies' passenger), John Griffiths (assembly - racer), Ken Blake (assembly), David Bowen (apprentice-restorer) and Richard Whitting (Sunderland WW2 flight engineer - engine assembly).
As Marcus says, it was the practice to number the engines at this stage as parts were mated to what fitted. The records then recorded these assemblies.
It’s also worth noting many parts were leaving the factory gates, and exchanged between departments and between staff, at a rate of knots.
Several workers left with a rather sudden and pronounced limp – which could have been due to a long day on assembly, or to the fact that a fork blade was stashed away under their trousers. The old boy on security was often kipping.
I would only add that the VOC dinner in 1969 was not the first time PCV and HRD met.
It’s a caption in MPH whose legend seems to have gone round the world, before the truth has got its boots on.
HRD would visit Stevenage on occasion and would have lunch with Vincent.
All good stuff.
David
 

Marcus Bowden

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Thank you David as you've been talking and interviewing a lot more ex-employees than any one else I know and have actually made notes on it, good job some one has.
bananaman.
 
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