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1938 Velocette, what to look for

Whiteshadow15

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I have been having difficulty finding much information regarding a bike that popped up on eBay, it is local and am planning on taking a look. I figured some on here would know about these much better than myself.


Sounds like the individual simply bought it to collect and has very little information or history regarding it. Are there things I should be on the look out for?

I saw it was at a Mecum auction in 2014 with a no-sale at 18k, although who knows if there were any real bidders or not.
 

LoneStar

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First question is what model it is - no record of an "MCC" from Velocette. The OHV models of the era were MAC (350cc) and MSS (500cc).
 

Whiteshadow15

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That’s what initially hindered my search initially, the Mecum listing had it correct so I think it speaks volumes as to who listed it.
 

genedn

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I would a be a little cautious as the photos out side of the barn door look like the front of sinless cycles and they are not based in Illinois.
 

Whiteshadow15

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Sinless was the previous owner, it’s still listed on the website as “past” bikes.
 

LoneStar

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There's reason to be suspicious of the seller. Check out his recent feedback, and completed auctions. It's also claimed he's the owner of a business called "The Burt Collection", itself the subject of numerous online complaints.
 

Whiteshadow15

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Yeah I did notice that, it looks more like he doesn’t honor auctions that end with a low bid. He did give me his contact and offered to check it out in person.
 

Whiteshadow15

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It is the same guy as the the Burt Collection, same phone number he gave I just saw.
 

LoneStar

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Well, if you can deal in person and disregard any claims not verified, the bike could be fine despite the seller being a weasel. Sinless Cycles has a good reputation at least.

Without having actually researched, though, the price seems very high for an OHV Velo. Looks like Car Dealer Syndrome; they tend to know nothing about the occasional bike being sold, and ask absurd prices.
 

Whiteshadow15

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I figured it was priced a bit high but maybe worth a premium if it is in-fact original. He had it listed for sale at 18.5 for a long time and obviously had no takers.
 

LoneStar

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That originality would be good to verify - hard to tell from the sparse and small photos, but the paint looks awfully good for being 80 years old.

Just for fun, I sent a question informing the seller of the nonexistence of the claimed 'MCC' model, and asking for accurate info. Reply: "MC. Please see the pics". (Unfortunately the Velocette MC, like its brother the MCC, never existed...)
 

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