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<blockquote data-quote="Magnetoman" data-source="post: 149876" data-attributes="member: 2806"><p>No, I haven't spoken with them yet, mainly because I'm already deep down a rabbit hole trying to determine the optimum design for spoked wheels. The following schematic indicates the <em>issue du jour</em> I've been wasting time thinking about.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]46484[/ATTACH]</p><p>It seems reasonable that the "best" (strongest) design would have the inside of the head in full contact with the spoke flange when the nut at the other end has the proper torque on it. If this is the case, the diagram above shows that if the head starts out life at >90° with respect to the face of the flange, as do my Vincent spokes, achieving that full contact would be impossible. </p><p></p><p>But, maybe it just seems reasonable, but isn't. Maybe the torque is small enough that it's incapable of bending the end more than a tiny amount, in which case the head should start (and end) its life at exactly 90° with respect to the flange. Or maybe spokes "never" break near the head, so the angle doesn't matter. Unfortunately, the science of spoke design dates to before Guttenberg since I haven't found any technical books on the subject as yet.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magnetoman, post: 149876, member: 2806"] No, I haven't spoken with them yet, mainly because I'm already deep down a rabbit hole trying to determine the optimum design for spoked wheels. The following schematic indicates the [I]issue du jour[/I] I've been wasting time thinking about. [ATTACH type="full" alt="1490Spokes.jpg"]46484[/ATTACH] It seems reasonable that the "best" (strongest) design would have the inside of the head in full contact with the spoke flange when the nut at the other end has the proper torque on it. If this is the case, the diagram above shows that if the head starts out life at >90° with respect to the face of the flange, as do my Vincent spokes, achieving that full contact would be impossible. But, maybe it just seems reasonable, but isn't. Maybe the torque is small enough that it's incapable of bending the end more than a tiny amount, in which case the head should start (and end) its life at exactly 90° with respect to the flange. Or maybe spokes "never" break near the head, so the angle doesn't matter. Unfortunately, the science of spoke design dates to before Guttenberg since I haven't found any technical books on the subject as yet. [/QUOTE]
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