Misc: Everything Else Starts, runs then slowly "chokes up"

Magnetoman

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One more thing that I haven't seen mentioned yet, make sure the choke lever isn't slowly moving when underway.
 

doctired

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What do the plugs look like? Also, some Monoblocs are machined not to have a fibre washer below the tickler assembly.
Plugs black, but air valves wide open to run.
Yeah, correct Robert but I'm trying to narrow down whether it is too much fuel or too little. I worked on a Panther that had just this problem with a Monobloc. My first question is always about plugs because they can tell you a lot, quickly. Anyway, as I always say, I read too much poetry to be useful. Put a bit of gaffer tape over the fuel cap vent and run a 3/32" drill through the breather hole, then remove tape. Also check the underside hole on the brass "dish". Cheers.
Cap vents clear... plugs black, air valves wide open when running.
 

chankly bore

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Orright, then. What slides, needle position, main jet, pilot jet and do the needles and seats seal properly and at the right height? Are the carburettors standard size?
 

Gary Gittleson

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When the engine loses power, I'd suggest applying the choke to see if things change. If there's a brief improvement it would suggest lack of fuel. I can't think of a way this problem would be produced by too much fuel, so it's either a fuel shortage or some sort of ignition problem, since we can assume that Maughn's did an excellent job on the engine itself.
You say you have a "D" ignition setup. In that case, you have a car-type coil. What's the age of that? Once hot, an old or abused coil can misbehave as you describe. One kind of abuse that can break down the internal insulation of a coil is running the engine or allowing it to spark with the plug(s) disconnected, causing internal sparking in the secondary windings.

Gary
 

Bill Thomas

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Some rubber/ Plastic pipes, Are bad with the new petrol, Check the flow at the carb' end ?.
I had one go hard and snap off, Going into a mini roundabout, Wondered why I was riding speedway style !.
You have the monobloc filter In the top carb' fitting, I have never liked, I always cut them off, And just leave the washer.
Do you have to renew the Plugs, To do the next 20 miles ?.
I had to weaken my slides, Because of the new petrol, But I got a bad misfire, And had to stop, And change plugs, On my T.T. Carbs, I could do 10 or 20 miles, before trouble. Cheers Bill.
 

macvette

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Some rubber/ Plastic pipes, Are bad with the new petrol, Check the flow at the carb' end ?.
I had one go hard and snap off, Going into a mini roundabout, Wondered why I was riding speedway style !.
You have the monobloc filter In the top carb' fitting, I have never liked, I always cut them off, And just leave the washer.
Do you have to renew the Plugs, To do the next 20 miles ?.
I had to weaken my slides, Because of the new petrol, But I got a bad misfire, And had to stop, And change plugs, On my T.T. Carbs, I could do 10 or 20 miles, before trouble. Cheers Bill.
Do you have plastic floats in the monoblocs?
I had a similar problem though the bike did not stop completely. The plastic floats have /had,a slight ridge caused by the injection molding process which caused the float to jam in the down position on the casting for the float chamber cover screw at 7 o'clock. This resulted in flooding. I found out when I made a perspex cover to see what was going on. This happened on both new carbs on my twin and another member of our local mcc had the same issue on an Aerial. If it is this, carefully sanding the ridge off cures it. I did talk to Burlen about it but dont know if they did anything.
Mac
Mac
 

doctired

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Do you have plastic floats in the monoblocs?
I had a similar problem though the bike did not stop completely. The plastic floats have /had,a slight ridge caused by the injection molding process which caused the float to jam in the down position on the casting for the float chamber cover screw at 7 o'clock. This resulted in flooding. I found out when I made a perspex cover to see what was going on. This happened on both new carbs on my twin and another member of our local mcc had the same issue on an Aerial. If it is this, carefully sanding the ridge off cures it. I did talk to Burlen about it but dont know if they did anything.
Mac
Mac
Thanks, will check.
 
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