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<blockquote data-quote="Simon Dinsdale" data-source="post: 86496" data-attributes="member: 58"><p>Up until late 2013 when the DVLA closed their local offices if you had an old vehicle you needed a registration for all you did was get a dating certificate saying the engine and frame were made in x year and then took the vehicle to the local DVLA office. They would look over the vehicle and give you an age related registration...simple. Then the DVLA closed all their local offices and then realised what these offices did and so looked at how such things like age related registrations would be done. It was around then that the "reconstructed" term came in. Most owners call these a bitsa. The DVLA started saying that most age related applications were for vehicles constructed of parts gathered from several different machines so all those parts had to be over 25 years old and the end result had to be a true reflection of the make and model. They also said that such vehicles had to have a new 17 digit DVLASW frame number and that had to be stamped on the vehicle!!! It was and is still possible to get an age related reg for a vehicle that is not constructed of parts gathered over x years ie for a bike been say in the shed for 40 years and the old council issued logbook has been lost. These could keep the original frame number. The DVLA have never said how they fully establish which route a vehicle application went, but one pointer was the postcode you sent your apllication to<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />. Within the last year the DVLA have dropped the requirement for a new frame number on reconstructed classics so that cannot be used to identify what is and what isn't.</p><p>What the new MOT legislation is saying is reconstructed classics are not considered vehicles of historic interest and so will not be MOT exempt. You as the owner will have to declare if the vehicle qualifys as "vehicle of historic interest" and so MOT exempt when you tax the vehicle, an woe be it on you if you get that wrong. I cannot see how the DVLA can tell from their V55 and database as a majority of age related registrations were issued before the term reconstructed started to be used.</p><p></p><p>As I say, its as clear as mud.</p><p></p><p>Simon</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Simon Dinsdale, post: 86496, member: 58"] Up until late 2013 when the DVLA closed their local offices if you had an old vehicle you needed a registration for all you did was get a dating certificate saying the engine and frame were made in x year and then took the vehicle to the local DVLA office. They would look over the vehicle and give you an age related registration...simple. Then the DVLA closed all their local offices and then realised what these offices did and so looked at how such things like age related registrations would be done. It was around then that the "reconstructed" term came in. Most owners call these a bitsa. The DVLA started saying that most age related applications were for vehicles constructed of parts gathered from several different machines so all those parts had to be over 25 years old and the end result had to be a true reflection of the make and model. They also said that such vehicles had to have a new 17 digit DVLASW frame number and that had to be stamped on the vehicle!!! It was and is still possible to get an age related reg for a vehicle that is not constructed of parts gathered over x years ie for a bike been say in the shed for 40 years and the old council issued logbook has been lost. These could keep the original frame number. The DVLA have never said how they fully establish which route a vehicle application went, but one pointer was the postcode you sent your apllication to:). Within the last year the DVLA have dropped the requirement for a new frame number on reconstructed classics so that cannot be used to identify what is and what isn't. What the new MOT legislation is saying is reconstructed classics are not considered vehicles of historic interest and so will not be MOT exempt. You as the owner will have to declare if the vehicle qualifys as "vehicle of historic interest" and so MOT exempt when you tax the vehicle, an woe be it on you if you get that wrong. I cannot see how the DVLA can tell from their V55 and database as a majority of age related registrations were issued before the term reconstructed started to be used. As I say, its as clear as mud. Simon [/QUOTE]
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