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<blockquote data-quote="Simon Dinsdale" data-source="post: 86473" data-attributes="member: 58"><p>Vibrac</p><p>The 8 point rule is for kit and highly modified vehicles and "reconstructed classics" of which will not qualify to be MOT exempt. So if you consider your vehicle has to be subjected to the 8 point rule then you must have an MOT.</p><p></p><p>The MOT exempt proposal suggest for vehicles over 40 years old and already registered you as the owner will be asked to declare yourself if the vehicle is MOT exempt or not when you tax the vehicle. You will be expected to make this decision.</p><p></p><p>Any vehicle over 40 years old that is Q plate, or a kit vehicle or heavily modified will not qualify and so will need an MOT. They are saying that you will have to decide if it is heavily modified by applying the age related rules to make your decision and also based on what you know about the vehicle in question. That is the vehicle must be "a true reflection of the marque" and so that statement alone will disqualify Norvin's, disc brakes , modern forks etc for Vincents. Minor modifications like 12v electrics should be OK as they don't distract from the Vincent looking original. Things like panniers have always been considered as a bolt on accessory and will probably be OK as well, but that is just a guess. It looks like even if you have the original registration your vehicle will still be subjected to the decision process.</p><p></p><p>Not all vehicles with a current age related registrations are a reconstructed classic. Its not commonly known but if you apply for an age related reg for a vehicle which is original and all of the same year then this is classed as an age related, but <u>NOT</u> reconstructed and you don't need a DVLA V627 built up report. You can have a matching number bike which has never been registered in the UK or proof of the original reg is lost. So there are two classes of age related, but the DVLA do not record which a vehicle is after registration. So the DVLA don't know if an age related vehicle registered 10 years ago automatically qualifys to be MOT exempt or not unless they revisit every past application which they will not do as they don't have the manpower or money to do so.</p><p> </p><p>So you as the owner will make the decision and if you say it doesn't require an MOT and later say due to an accident it becomes apparent you were wrong and should have an MOT then the full force of the law will come down on you. The DVLA & DOT is putting the problem in your lap and walking away effectively. The only way to cover yourself unless you are 100% sure will be to MOT your vehicle whether it need to be or not.</p><p></p><p>It's all as clear as mud. The decision won't change, but the DOT & DVLA interpertation of it may. Hopefully better guidance will come out in time.</p><p></p><p>Simon</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Simon Dinsdale, post: 86473, member: 58"] Vibrac The 8 point rule is for kit and highly modified vehicles and "reconstructed classics" of which will not qualify to be MOT exempt. So if you consider your vehicle has to be subjected to the 8 point rule then you must have an MOT. The MOT exempt proposal suggest for vehicles over 40 years old and already registered you as the owner will be asked to declare yourself if the vehicle is MOT exempt or not when you tax the vehicle. You will be expected to make this decision. Any vehicle over 40 years old that is Q plate, or a kit vehicle or heavily modified will not qualify and so will need an MOT. They are saying that you will have to decide if it is heavily modified by applying the age related rules to make your decision and also based on what you know about the vehicle in question. That is the vehicle must be "a true reflection of the marque" and so that statement alone will disqualify Norvin's, disc brakes , modern forks etc for Vincents. Minor modifications like 12v electrics should be OK as they don't distract from the Vincent looking original. Things like panniers have always been considered as a bolt on accessory and will probably be OK as well, but that is just a guess. It looks like even if you have the original registration your vehicle will still be subjected to the decision process. Not all vehicles with a current age related registrations are a reconstructed classic. Its not commonly known but if you apply for an age related reg for a vehicle which is original and all of the same year then this is classed as an age related, but [U]NOT[/U] reconstructed and you don't need a DVLA V627 built up report. You can have a matching number bike which has never been registered in the UK or proof of the original reg is lost. So there are two classes of age related, but the DVLA do not record which a vehicle is after registration. So the DVLA don't know if an age related vehicle registered 10 years ago automatically qualifys to be MOT exempt or not unless they revisit every past application which they will not do as they don't have the manpower or money to do so. So you as the owner will make the decision and if you say it doesn't require an MOT and later say due to an accident it becomes apparent you were wrong and should have an MOT then the full force of the law will come down on you. The DVLA & DOT is putting the problem in your lap and walking away effectively. The only way to cover yourself unless you are 100% sure will be to MOT your vehicle whether it need to be or not. It's all as clear as mud. The decision won't change, but the DOT & DVLA interpertation of it may. Hopefully better guidance will come out in time. Simon [/QUOTE]
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