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<blockquote data-quote="oexing" data-source="post: 94357" data-attributes="member: 1493"><p>VW beetle engine cases were all magnesium right to the end I believe. The type in my photo has 2 l big bore cylinders, about 65 hp and no electrics, just the one Scintilla mag. </p><p> I guess no impulse device was invented much before WW 2 in aviation or elsewhere. At that time rotating magnets made from modern material could be had with dramatically higher voltage as I see from a late 30ties military Bosch 6 cylinder mag with automatic advance and retard, 15 mm, more than half inch, sparks when spun by fingers. So starting was easier now , no real need for the impulse effect. In aero engines you have twofold needs for that: Higher voltage because of low propping revs plus the retard effect when timing is otherwise fixed at 23 degrees BTDC - to avoid heavy kickback while propping. </p><p> In cars and bikes you will find variable ignition timing, either manual or automatic, anyway, so no impulse device here, higher speeds while starting too. </p><p> Unfortunately the miserable spinning coil plus slip ring magneto survived with Lucas and BTH into the sixties, an anachronism as Magenti Marelli had a great rotating magnet plus automatic advance and retard from early fifties in Guzzi singles etc. , that type was very rare with Lucas or Bosch, no external magneto was found on German post war motorcycles anymore. BMW had a great mag ignition till end of sixties with rotating magnet and lost spark twin plug coil inside the engine case. I wonder if you could do a twin coil lost spark magneto on a V-twin to save a distributor - that is in effect the segmented slip ring with the spinning coil type. </p><p></p><p> Vic</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="oexing, post: 94357, member: 1493"] VW beetle engine cases were all magnesium right to the end I believe. The type in my photo has 2 l big bore cylinders, about 65 hp and no electrics, just the one Scintilla mag. I guess no impulse device was invented much before WW 2 in aviation or elsewhere. At that time rotating magnets made from modern material could be had with dramatically higher voltage as I see from a late 30ties military Bosch 6 cylinder mag with automatic advance and retard, 15 mm, more than half inch, sparks when spun by fingers. So starting was easier now , no real need for the impulse effect. In aero engines you have twofold needs for that: Higher voltage because of low propping revs plus the retard effect when timing is otherwise fixed at 23 degrees BTDC - to avoid heavy kickback while propping. In cars and bikes you will find variable ignition timing, either manual or automatic, anyway, so no impulse device here, higher speeds while starting too. Unfortunately the miserable spinning coil plus slip ring magneto survived with Lucas and BTH into the sixties, an anachronism as Magenti Marelli had a great rotating magnet plus automatic advance and retard from early fifties in Guzzi singles etc. , that type was very rare with Lucas or Bosch, no external magneto was found on German post war motorcycles anymore. BMW had a great mag ignition till end of sixties with rotating magnet and lost spark twin plug coil inside the engine case. I wonder if you could do a twin coil lost spark magneto on a V-twin to save a distributor - that is in effect the segmented slip ring with the spinning coil type. Vic [/QUOTE]
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