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Tech. Advice: Series 'B' / 'C' 500cc/1000cc Bikes
Spokes Aint Spokes - or are they?
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<blockquote data-quote="Oldhaven" data-source="post: 54997" data-attributes="member: 2879"><p>I am lacing a 21 inch Central Wheel Classic Elite rim for my Rapide, (really nice looking rim), and have followed the conversations here and elsewhere about spoke torque. I have a torque wrench and was going to go into the 60 to 80 inch pounds area, as Davidd does with Buchanan components but as I get to the range of 45 to 50 I find that my sense of feel is telling me to stop. I can further see that as I rotate the rim the flat area below the raised lined area reflects the light differently, indicating slight distortion from the tension at each spoke hole. I have got the rim to +/- .010 both ways, and the spokes ring true though not exactly all the same. These are 9 gauge spokes and the nipples are 1/4" plated brass. The nipples are smaller than the ones I had on the 20" rim. It has a 9 gauge spokes and 9/32 stainless nipples combination from Buchanan's. I am a bit concerned about going any higher, and will stop at just between 45 and 50. I checked with Central Wheel and their wheel builders only lace and tune by sound and feel, and don't use torque wrenches. Are the 80 to 100 figures Buchanan uses for just their heavier gauge spokes and larger stainless steel nipples? I suspect that the smaller size and brass material of the plated nipples would not stand up to a higher torque, just from my instincts of over 50 years tightening things (and stripping a few early in my learning process).</p><p>I measured the thickness of the rim and it is about 1/16" I happened to have a black painted 19" rim around, probably dating from the 50's, and it is about .020 thicker, another reason telling me to stop where I am. The Elites are given special polishing treatment and may be thinner, as David mentions in his quote. Interestingly the black rim has blue striping where the red would be on a black lined Vincent rim.</p><p></p><p>Ron</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oldhaven, post: 54997, member: 2879"] I am lacing a 21 inch Central Wheel Classic Elite rim for my Rapide, (really nice looking rim), and have followed the conversations here and elsewhere about spoke torque. I have a torque wrench and was going to go into the 60 to 80 inch pounds area, as Davidd does with Buchanan components but as I get to the range of 45 to 50 I find that my sense of feel is telling me to stop. I can further see that as I rotate the rim the flat area below the raised lined area reflects the light differently, indicating slight distortion from the tension at each spoke hole. I have got the rim to +/- .010 both ways, and the spokes ring true though not exactly all the same. These are 9 gauge spokes and the nipples are 1/4" plated brass. The nipples are smaller than the ones I had on the 20" rim. It has a 9 gauge spokes and 9/32 stainless nipples combination from Buchanan's. I am a bit concerned about going any higher, and will stop at just between 45 and 50. I checked with Central Wheel and their wheel builders only lace and tune by sound and feel, and don't use torque wrenches. Are the 80 to 100 figures Buchanan uses for just their heavier gauge spokes and larger stainless steel nipples? I suspect that the smaller size and brass material of the plated nipples would not stand up to a higher torque, just from my instincts of over 50 years tightening things (and stripping a few early in my learning process). I measured the thickness of the rim and it is about 1/16" I happened to have a black painted 19" rim around, probably dating from the 50's, and it is about .020 thicker, another reason telling me to stop where I am. The Elites are given special polishing treatment and may be thinner, as David mentions in his quote. Interestingly the black rim has blue striping where the red would be on a black lined Vincent rim. Ron [/QUOTE]
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