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Rapide Oil Leak - Help Please
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<blockquote data-quote="Tom Gaynor" data-source="post: 23348" data-attributes="member: 4034"><p>I'm sure it isn't the gearbox; and as Howard suggests, oil is almost NEVER leaking from where it appears to be leaking. However it would be easy to draw the stud you think may be the source, paint some Wellseal on it, and replace. Then observe. </p><p>Took me a run to Belgium to discover that my root problem was breathing. The engine wasn't breathing well, and was pushing air and oil into the chaincase, where it 1) became atomised into an oil / air mist by a thrashing chain and 2) since pressure will escape if it can, the mist blew out at the dynamo (Alton, actually) where there is a gap. The dynamo has an oil-flinger which is supposed to separate the oil out, but doesn't. Or didn't on MY bike. If it had, IMHO there would be no problem. Once the oil-laden aerosol scented freedom, the oil mist, having survived ordeal by oil-flinger, separated out and disguised itself as an oil leak. The oil dribbled down the back of the engine just as you describe, and in a neat bit of subterfuge familiar to most owners, flowed FORWARD to hide it's origin. </p><p>Without opening the can of worms that is breathing, (yet) get a tube of clear (or wood-grain if your tastes run that way) domestic silicone seal from B & Q. Seal the dynamo to the chaincase. This may require a lot of silicone - but it's cheap - and the use of a wet finger to push it in to place. Screwfix sell a cheap degreaser, helps it stick. Using a felt ring 'twixt dynamo and chaincase as a matrix for the silicone works. This operation will do no harm.</p><p>What then happens is that if the chaincase IS being pressurised from the crankchamber as the pistons come down (because the breather is inefficient?), the TRAPPED pressure disappears back into the crankchamber as the pistons ascend. There <em>is no net flow</em> from crankchamber to chaincase. (The literature - FYO and ATY - contains complaints that "my chaincase oil level keeps rising".)</p><p>In extremis, one can "dye" the engine oil then use UV ("black") light to find out the source of a leak. Then do the same for the gearbox. I bought some. Still have it. </p><p>What you don't say is when / how this started. If it has JUST started, I'd check that the timed breather hasn't moved. Or I'd fit a D breather. Vincent didn't drop the timed breather in favour of the D-type in an attempt to make things worse.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tom Gaynor, post: 23348, member: 4034"] I'm sure it isn't the gearbox; and as Howard suggests, oil is almost NEVER leaking from where it appears to be leaking. However it would be easy to draw the stud you think may be the source, paint some Wellseal on it, and replace. Then observe. Took me a run to Belgium to discover that my root problem was breathing. The engine wasn't breathing well, and was pushing air and oil into the chaincase, where it 1) became atomised into an oil / air mist by a thrashing chain and 2) since pressure will escape if it can, the mist blew out at the dynamo (Alton, actually) where there is a gap. The dynamo has an oil-flinger which is supposed to separate the oil out, but doesn't. Or didn't on MY bike. If it had, IMHO there would be no problem. Once the oil-laden aerosol scented freedom, the oil mist, having survived ordeal by oil-flinger, separated out and disguised itself as an oil leak. The oil dribbled down the back of the engine just as you describe, and in a neat bit of subterfuge familiar to most owners, flowed FORWARD to hide it's origin. Without opening the can of worms that is breathing, (yet) get a tube of clear (or wood-grain if your tastes run that way) domestic silicone seal from B & Q. Seal the dynamo to the chaincase. This may require a lot of silicone - but it's cheap - and the use of a wet finger to push it in to place. Screwfix sell a cheap degreaser, helps it stick. Using a felt ring 'twixt dynamo and chaincase as a matrix for the silicone works. This operation will do no harm. What then happens is that if the chaincase IS being pressurised from the crankchamber as the pistons come down (because the breather is inefficient?), the TRAPPED pressure disappears back into the crankchamber as the pistons ascend. There [I]is no net flow[/I] from crankchamber to chaincase. (The literature - FYO and ATY - contains complaints that "my chaincase oil level keeps rising".) In extremis, one can "dye" the engine oil then use UV ("black") light to find out the source of a leak. Then do the same for the gearbox. I bought some. Still have it. What you don't say is when / how this started. If it has JUST started, I'd check that the timed breather hasn't moved. Or I'd fit a D breather. Vincent didn't drop the timed breather in favour of the D-type in an attempt to make things worse. [/QUOTE]
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