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Tech. Advice: Series 'B' / 'C' 500cc/1000cc Bikes
Poor starting on new Amal and BTH Magneto
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<blockquote data-quote="Magnetoman" data-source="post: 43055" data-attributes="member: 2806"><p>A couple of comments on this. Lucas condensers have an exponential dependence of leakage on temperature, so the initial sign of a stock Lucas condenser going bad is for the magneto to work fine when cold, but to develop a miss as it warms up. So, my first comment is that even if your condenser passes this sparking test first thing in the morning, it doesn't eliminate it from being at fault for your magneto's problem. "Luckily," the darkness of the garage is not a requirement. If your engine starts missing as it warms up, the sparks across the points from a bad condenser will be quite apparent even in daylight.</p><p></p><p>The real problem with the sparking created by a bad condenser isn't so much that they are eating up the points (which they are), but that they are both sucking energy out of the system that is needed at the spark plug gap to ignite the mixture, as well as altering the timing by radomly delaying the spark. As for ozone, yes indeed, it is a very powerful oxidizer. The design of Lucas and BTH rotating armature magnetos places their condensers outside the points compartment where they are not exposed to ozone where they would be subjected to the elevated ozone levels that are present even in a compartment that is vented (which would be even worse if not vented). The fact that ozone is a serious issue is evidenced by even 'wader' magnetos being vented, despite wanting them to be water tight.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magnetoman, post: 43055, member: 2806"] A couple of comments on this. Lucas condensers have an exponential dependence of leakage on temperature, so the initial sign of a stock Lucas condenser going bad is for the magneto to work fine when cold, but to develop a miss as it warms up. So, my first comment is that even if your condenser passes this sparking test first thing in the morning, it doesn't eliminate it from being at fault for your magneto's problem. "Luckily," the darkness of the garage is not a requirement. If your engine starts missing as it warms up, the sparks across the points from a bad condenser will be quite apparent even in daylight. The real problem with the sparking created by a bad condenser isn't so much that they are eating up the points (which they are), but that they are both sucking energy out of the system that is needed at the spark plug gap to ignite the mixture, as well as altering the timing by radomly delaying the spark. As for ozone, yes indeed, it is a very powerful oxidizer. The design of Lucas and BTH rotating armature magnetos places their condensers outside the points compartment where they are not exposed to ozone where they would be subjected to the elevated ozone levels that are present even in a compartment that is vented (which would be even worse if not vented). The fact that ozone is a serious issue is evidenced by even 'wader' magnetos being vented, despite wanting them to be water tight. [/QUOTE]
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