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<blockquote data-quote="Martyn Goodwin" data-source="post: 78013" data-attributes="member: 2433"><p><strong>Some thoughts on Vincent Front Suspension. PART 2</strong></p><p></p><p>For anyone interested I have constructed an EXCEL model that calculated the performance of up to 3 different front springs plus any combination of those springs. You enter the spring free length, the thickness of any pre load shim and the spring constant (in Lbs/in) for each of the 3 springs. If you know the weight required to achieve the desired 30% static sag point you can quickly see what spring you need. By playing around with values you can then experiment to get a required total force at full compression as well. Remember, the physical design of the Girdraulics is such that springs MUST be in the free length range of 14 to 17 inches. If you want a copy of the spring calculator send me a PM with your email address.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now let’s look as some spring tables, assuming in all cases that the springs are linear on operation. That is the coil spacing is constant and the wire gauge is constant within any one spring. </p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]15790[/ATTACH] </p><p>Table 1: Original Vincent Springs</p><p></p><p>The next table was kindly provided by Davis Dunfey for the springs he developed a while back. These are shorter than the factory springs at a whisker over 14 inches and have almost but NOT zero pre load when installing them – which makes spring box fit/remove a doddle.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]15791[/ATTACH] </p><p>Table 2: David Dumfry Springs, no pre load spacer</p><p></p><p>So what happens to these Dunfey springs if we pre load them by putting a spacer into the bottom of the spring box, under the spring? The next 3 tables show the impact of adding a preload spacer on David’s springs, nothing else is changed.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]15792[/ATTACH] </p><p></p><p>Table 3: Davids springs with a 0.125” thick pre load spacer</p><p></p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]15793[/ATTACH] </p><p>Table 4: Davids springs with a 0.25” pre load spacer</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]15794[/ATTACH] </p><p>Table 5: Davids springs with a 0.5 inch pre load spacer,</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Martyn Goodwin, post: 78013, member: 2433"] [B]Some thoughts on Vincent Front Suspension. PART 2[/B] For anyone interested I have constructed an EXCEL model that calculated the performance of up to 3 different front springs plus any combination of those springs. You enter the spring free length, the thickness of any pre load shim and the spring constant (in Lbs/in) for each of the 3 springs. If you know the weight required to achieve the desired 30% static sag point you can quickly see what spring you need. By playing around with values you can then experiment to get a required total force at full compression as well. Remember, the physical design of the Girdraulics is such that springs MUST be in the free length range of 14 to 17 inches. If you want a copy of the spring calculator send me a PM with your email address. Now let’s look as some spring tables, assuming in all cases that the springs are linear on operation. That is the coil spacing is constant and the wire gauge is constant within any one spring. [ATTACH=full]15790[/ATTACH] Table 1: Original Vincent Springs The next table was kindly provided by Davis Dunfey for the springs he developed a while back. These are shorter than the factory springs at a whisker over 14 inches and have almost but NOT zero pre load when installing them – which makes spring box fit/remove a doddle. [ATTACH=full]15791[/ATTACH] Table 2: David Dumfry Springs, no pre load spacer So what happens to these Dunfey springs if we pre load them by putting a spacer into the bottom of the spring box, under the spring? The next 3 tables show the impact of adding a preload spacer on David’s springs, nothing else is changed. [ATTACH=full]15792[/ATTACH] Table 3: Davids springs with a 0.125” thick pre load spacer [ATTACH=full]15793[/ATTACH] Table 4: Davids springs with a 0.25” pre load spacer [ATTACH=full]15794[/ATTACH] Table 5: Davids springs with a 0.5 inch pre load spacer, [/QUOTE]
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