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Ignition Timing & modern Fuel
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<blockquote data-quote="Monkeypants" data-source="post: 47278" data-attributes="member: 2708"><p>The advance curve for the ignition I ordered from Pazon shows a similar start point, possibly one degree higher at 3 degrees, if the above graph starts at two.</p><p>When it came time to order there was much discussion of the advance numbers with Andy, the owner of Pazon.I have saved all of the emails and those from Bob Dunn as well, just read thru them again. Andy informed me that the actual starting point for all the Vincent ignitions is zero degrees, but that it ramps up quickly to a few degrees at electric starter rpm perhaps 2- 300 rpm. For kick starting tho, zero is still the number.Why the charts show a couple of degrees is a mystery . I recall wondering about it at the time, but neglected to ask why. </p><p>I was a bit concerned about this as total advance for the unit (twin plug, twin cylinder, high ouput) was available in two types, either the 31degree type shown on the site, or a special 28 degree unit they had made up for A Bob Dunn race motor. </p><p>Armed with Roy Robertson's dyno info , I was concerned that even the lower 28 figure might still be too much total advance. My question to Andy was "Will the engine still start if I find it necessary to roll back timing another three degrees to 25 degrees total advance., making the new start position 3 degrees ATDC?"</p><p>He replied that it should be OK. I hope he is correct as the cost to make up a new advance curve is $500. I wish there were some ATD ears in there that could be bent!</p><p></p><p>Glen</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Monkeypants, post: 47278, member: 2708"] The advance curve for the ignition I ordered from Pazon shows a similar start point, possibly one degree higher at 3 degrees, if the above graph starts at two. When it came time to order there was much discussion of the advance numbers with Andy, the owner of Pazon.I have saved all of the emails and those from Bob Dunn as well, just read thru them again. Andy informed me that the actual starting point for all the Vincent ignitions is zero degrees, but that it ramps up quickly to a few degrees at electric starter rpm perhaps 2- 300 rpm. For kick starting tho, zero is still the number.Why the charts show a couple of degrees is a mystery . I recall wondering about it at the time, but neglected to ask why. I was a bit concerned about this as total advance for the unit (twin plug, twin cylinder, high ouput) was available in two types, either the 31degree type shown on the site, or a special 28 degree unit they had made up for A Bob Dunn race motor. Armed with Roy Robertson's dyno info , I was concerned that even the lower 28 figure might still be too much total advance. My question to Andy was "Will the engine still start if I find it necessary to roll back timing another three degrees to 25 degrees total advance., making the new start position 3 degrees ATDC?" He replied that it should be OK. I hope he is correct as the cost to make up a new advance curve is $500. I wish there were some ATD ears in there that could be bent! Glen [/QUOTE]
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