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Tech. Advice: Series 'B' / 'C' 500cc/1000cc Bikes
(Front) Brake improvements
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<blockquote data-quote="greg brillus" data-source="post: 172792" data-attributes="member: 597"><p>All the above points are a good approach.......I'll add by saying the choice of linings has a big impact on these brakes too.......My pick are the ones supplied by Vintage brake in the USA.......there will be many others, but a lot of modern soft linings dont seem to give as much bite as these and some woven linings.......Most of the bending going on is because the linings are simply not good enough to use on old school mechanical brakes........or the ingress of oil or grease from the wheel hubs, as you dont need much to limit the action of the small lining surfaces........This is a very common problem on these bikes, especially the rear brakes that cop oil from a leaking engine/breather.The other very important issue is the use of both front and rear brakes together........anyone who rides a modern bike and only tend to use the front brakes only will simply sruggle to pull up a Vincent using the front brake only.......these bikes need both brakes.......I have stock brakes except for alloy Lighning type front plates complete with the poorly set up axle hole.......using standard and some of Neal/Rodney's new shoes, the braking difference was nill........But cutting the oversized linings on each plate and using good linings are the trick to getting good brakes on these bikes.....Well as good as they can be really......The twin leader Speet brakes work well, some of my customers swear by them.......They are still a 7" brake......this size on a heavy bike is only going to work so well, no matter what you do to it........With some of the custom Hybrid Vincents and my solo racer, I'm use to big four leader brakes that put the Vin brakes to shame.......but they too take some carefull setting up, and lining choice to work well........I had a 1200 Egli here recently that had genuine TZ brakes front and rear.......The front brake was the best drum brake i have ever used.......it would easily stand the bike on its nose with very little finger pressure........again it had really good linings, so for me there is definately part of the answer.......Cheers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="greg brillus, post: 172792, member: 597"] All the above points are a good approach.......I'll add by saying the choice of linings has a big impact on these brakes too.......My pick are the ones supplied by Vintage brake in the USA.......there will be many others, but a lot of modern soft linings dont seem to give as much bite as these and some woven linings.......Most of the bending going on is because the linings are simply not good enough to use on old school mechanical brakes........or the ingress of oil or grease from the wheel hubs, as you dont need much to limit the action of the small lining surfaces........This is a very common problem on these bikes, especially the rear brakes that cop oil from a leaking engine/breather.The other very important issue is the use of both front and rear brakes together........anyone who rides a modern bike and only tend to use the front brakes only will simply sruggle to pull up a Vincent using the front brake only.......these bikes need both brakes.......I have stock brakes except for alloy Lighning type front plates complete with the poorly set up axle hole.......using standard and some of Neal/Rodney's new shoes, the braking difference was nill........But cutting the oversized linings on each plate and using good linings are the trick to getting good brakes on these bikes.....Well as good as they can be really......The twin leader Speet brakes work well, some of my customers swear by them.......They are still a 7" brake......this size on a heavy bike is only going to work so well, no matter what you do to it........With some of the custom Hybrid Vincents and my solo racer, I'm use to big four leader brakes that put the Vin brakes to shame.......but they too take some carefull setting up, and lining choice to work well........I had a 1200 Egli here recently that had genuine TZ brakes front and rear.......The front brake was the best drum brake i have ever used.......it would easily stand the bike on its nose with very little finger pressure........again it had really good linings, so for me there is definately part of the answer.......Cheers. [/QUOTE]
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