Non Vincent Related France to Lower Noise Limits at Race Tracks by 2024

France is set to lower the noise limits at its race tracks from 2024 from 102dB to 95dB, as the country looks to combat noise pollution.

France is set to lower the noise limit for its race tracks from 2024, as it seeks to lower noise pollution.

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The new legislation will see the current noise limit of 102 decibels cut to 95 decibels, and will mean track-going road bikes will need to be more tightly-restricted on France’s race tracks.

For the avoidance of doubt, this regulation will apply only to road bikes when they go on the race track, but not - for the moment, at least - to racing motorcycles. This means that, for example, the French Grand Prix,the WorldSBK round in Magny-Cours, the Bol d’Or and the 24 Heures Motos are not (yet) under threat. In fact- certainly this is true for WorldSBK - those events are already over the existing noise limit of 102dB.

To the annoyance of many, this means we have to talk again about electricbikes. We have written quite a lot about electric bikes in recent times, from scooters to adventure bikes, and from the major manufacturers to the new, smaller, brands that are trying to get ahead of them.

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There are many problems at the moment with electrics: range, a lack of infrastructure, a lack of performance (generally speaking), and an abundance of weight. Noise is another, for some people (this author included) and yet this news out of France shows how electric bikes’ quietness can be of benefit to track day goers and even to racers.

We know that governments are trying to clamp down on noise pollution, too. Here in the UK, ‘noise cameras’ (alternatively known as microphones) are being trialled this summer as the government here tries to keep noise pollution down.

In places like Brands Hatch, for example, noise pollution is a particular issue because of the proximity of a large number of houses. This is repeated in many other places around the world, and Lommel - regarded in motocross as one of if not the most challenging track in the world - was threatened in recent times with closure over noise pollution issues.

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Electric bikes eliminate noise pollution as a problem, and while they might not be great for the spectators of racing in the short term, they might be beneficial for fans of racing in the long term, as less tracks will be forced to close due to noise concerns.
 

vibrac

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What beats me is the complete avoidance of crowd noise in all this control freekery. My last football match I attended was in 1958 so I am no expert but I have been unfortunate to be near a town stadium when a match is being played I bet anyone with a noise meter at a match would find medical harm limits are being reached. The height of this idiocy was not as you would expect at Mallory when two races were stopped (I blame estate Agents and myopic buyers for that) but at Donnington when the endurance race was fixed at 105Db wile we shouted at each other in the pits as the flights into east midland airport came over our heads.
I guess its more to do with the desperation of electric car sellers as the disadvantages of the system are exposed.
 

ClassicBiker

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Slight diversion here. I am amazed/dumbfounded/gob smacked (pick one) when I learn of people who purchase or build houses near airports, race tracks, shooting ranges (again pick one) then complain about the noise. But not just complain but go on to lobby authorities to restrict hours of operation, change flight paths, or shut it down all together.
Comparing the dB values in the article to those currently in use here for new vehicles it would appear as if they are trying to bring the noise level down to highway levels in an urban environment. But then again a bus makes anywhere from 80 - 95dB, a lawn mower is 70 - 90dB, and aircraft taking off can be up to 140dB. Which brings me to if you don't like noise don't buy or build next to loud things. Yes it might be sparsely populated, pastoral in appearance, and cheap to purchase a really big lot. There is a reason for that, it's LOUD. My final thought is this. Build airports, racetracks, and shooting ranges next to each other and only allow the surrounding land to be developed into cemeteries. Now if those neighbors complain, well I guess there really is an issue.
Steven
 

Hugo Myatt

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A couple bought a cottage next door to our local church. In fact the cottage was called 'Church Cottage'. There is a clue there somewhere. The couple phoned up the vicar and complained about the bell ringing. He politely responded that the church was consecrated in 1321 and if they did not like bells perhaps they shouldn't live next to a church.
 

vibrac

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There was a president set in court a few years ago that does reduce the power of new residents against an pre-existing feature however H&S rules take the high ground and in the Mallory case they have made a bargain with the devil (Local Council) or evidently they would have been closed. The general public has little time for motorcycles and listening to the dry roads crutch rockets that go by our village on a Bike Magazine 'publicised route' I cant blame them. However stopping things like the Isle of Whight TT is the communities loss. A once a summer month Sunday morning meet of cars and bikes at a local village Hall made £9000 for the church fund the year before Covid.
 

Speedtwin

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We are blessed with open pipe road racing in Ireland for both classics and modern machines we see competitors from overseas with enormous silencers fitted to their classic race machines.

Noise is in the ears of the beholder, I love the sound of a six cylinder on full chat, but on the flip side I am half deaf from years of tuning noisey bikes.
My old MV was measured by a council H/S suit at a race meeting a few years ago, I was doing a demo lap, it hit 150db on his meter as I passed him on the red line, space shuttle loud apparently according to Mr Safety.
He was impressed and noted it was not an unpleasant sound, think I converted him, no noise restrictions were put in place.

Don't think any of my road bikes would fall into the sub 90db category the Rapide is quite loud in a refined way.
Some of our short circuits have now got noise limits and time restrictions for noise again this is led by residents complaints.

I do believe loud pipes save lives.
 

Mike 40M

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In Sweden roadrace tracks has a 95dB pass by limit for many years. Some classic race bikes gets black flag.
The homemade silencer I have on the Manx works well but I haven't yet dyno tested it for power loss.
Enduro bikes are sound checked at races as part of pre race scrutiny.
Local authorities also have sound meters at homes close to the tracks and can ban tracks if excessive noise.
One track is near to closure.
My Comet is very loud since fitting a spiral baffle silencer. Top speed increased 10 Mph.
I have bad hearing since speedway racing in my youth. Warm up in the pit of 20 straight piped bikes impair hearing.
 

vibrac

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Big is the answer to silencing we are close to parity on the racer twixt open pipes and twin silencers. (With open pipes being slightly DOWN on power)
I wonder if a noise limit is being exercised in France over the noise from football stadiums? or pop concerts?
If any green mentions Co2 output from me riding my bike for pleasure I point them at floodlit golf ranges and football pitches.
Appealing for fairness is the only real weapon we have.
 
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