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<blockquote data-quote="davidd" data-source="post: 138499" data-attributes="member: 1177"><p>Phil Irving recalls a lot of rich details about these two Shadows. I would guess that the mating numbers British Salmson stamped on the cases might have been sequential, but they would not have stamped an engine number. </p><p></p><p>The "lab tested" Lucas mags would have been specially numbered, but they would be notable only as long as they were originally used on the bikes.</p><p></p><p>I am not sure that pulling parts from the scrap bin would have been necessary. Standard parts would not in any way announce their destination. Black crankcases would, so it would be the assembly that needed to be hidden. The special Shadow parts like the finned brake drums would have given away the secret in the machine shop.</p><p></p><p>Phil Vincent was pretty good at marketing. I suspect the use of the name "Sports Rapide" was done to fortify the notion of continuation and development of a known model. It would have been a temporary use as it was rather unwieldy as a name.</p><p></p><p>The use of British Salmson to machine the two cases is what surprised me. The Factory should have been the better choice to machine the cases. Until the cases were painted they were indistinguishable from Rapide cases. Irving does not mention any porosity issues. One would think the cases were examined closely prior to shipment to British Salmson. The delivery of the two cases to Vincent was clearly etched in Irving's mind. It is puzzling why the records are barren of references to the second bike.</p><p></p><p>David</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="davidd, post: 138499, member: 1177"] Phil Irving recalls a lot of rich details about these two Shadows. I would guess that the mating numbers British Salmson stamped on the cases might have been sequential, but they would not have stamped an engine number. The "lab tested" Lucas mags would have been specially numbered, but they would be notable only as long as they were originally used on the bikes. I am not sure that pulling parts from the scrap bin would have been necessary. Standard parts would not in any way announce their destination. Black crankcases would, so it would be the assembly that needed to be hidden. The special Shadow parts like the finned brake drums would have given away the secret in the machine shop. Phil Vincent was pretty good at marketing. I suspect the use of the name "Sports Rapide" was done to fortify the notion of continuation and development of a known model. It would have been a temporary use as it was rather unwieldy as a name. The use of British Salmson to machine the two cases is what surprised me. The Factory should have been the better choice to machine the cases. Until the cases were painted they were indistinguishable from Rapide cases. Irving does not mention any porosity issues. One would think the cases were examined closely prior to shipment to British Salmson. The delivery of the two cases to Vincent was clearly etched in Irving's mind. It is puzzling why the records are barren of references to the second bike. David [/QUOTE]
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