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<blockquote data-quote="davidd" data-source="post: 54539" data-attributes="member: 1177"><p>This is a very interesting thread. I have not run the numbers with an engine the size of yours, but the formula requires so many decisions about the conditions under which you want to operate, it is difficult to do a rough calculation. What rpm do you want to shift at, what is that in piston speed, what mean port velocity are you shooting for 250, 275, 300, etc. After you have done all the calculations you get to the dyno and you are not impressed with the results, maybe. </p><p></p><p>I will say that the fastest Vincent single road racers I know use megaphones. I would think that Terry's heads would like them more than the stock heads because the stock heads have such a terrible exhaust port. Having said that I would prefer to use a straight pipe. There is plenty of torque, but not much high up, which is fine for road racing. I think the Factory stuck with straight pipes for the same reason. </p><p></p><p>Greg, I am sorry about the pipes, but you are not alone. Every racer has a similar story. One of the advantages that Roy Robertson and Glen have is they are running an Egli frame. The motor is so much higher than stock that you can get away with a low system with greater ease. I tacked up my system with the springs removed and the bike leaned over at 45 degrees in order to make sure it worked:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]2845[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>The next race was at Miller Motorsports and I went off the track in the Attitudes and bashed the pipe on the curb. That is when I decided a high pipe was mandatory. Of course, the reason I had made this pipe in the first place was because they had instituted a catch pan rule. They had not yet instituted a silencer rule, but I decided that I was not going to invest in expensive parts that could be made redundant with a stroke of a pen. With a high pipe I did not have to worry about mounting a silencer.</p><p></p><p>Irving-Vincent:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]2846[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]2847[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>David</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="davidd, post: 54539, member: 1177"] This is a very interesting thread. I have not run the numbers with an engine the size of yours, but the formula requires so many decisions about the conditions under which you want to operate, it is difficult to do a rough calculation. What rpm do you want to shift at, what is that in piston speed, what mean port velocity are you shooting for 250, 275, 300, etc. After you have done all the calculations you get to the dyno and you are not impressed with the results, maybe. I will say that the fastest Vincent single road racers I know use megaphones. I would think that Terry's heads would like them more than the stock heads because the stock heads have such a terrible exhaust port. Having said that I would prefer to use a straight pipe. There is plenty of torque, but not much high up, which is fine for road racing. I think the Factory stuck with straight pipes for the same reason. Greg, I am sorry about the pipes, but you are not alone. Every racer has a similar story. One of the advantages that Roy Robertson and Glen have is they are running an Egli frame. The motor is so much higher than stock that you can get away with a low system with greater ease. I tacked up my system with the springs removed and the bike leaned over at 45 degrees in order to make sure it worked: [ATTACH=full]2845[/ATTACH] The next race was at Miller Motorsports and I went off the track in the Attitudes and bashed the pipe on the curb. That is when I decided a high pipe was mandatory. Of course, the reason I had made this pipe in the first place was because they had instituted a catch pan rule. They had not yet instituted a silencer rule, but I decided that I was not going to invest in expensive parts that could be made redundant with a stroke of a pen. With a high pipe I did not have to worry about mounting a silencer. Irving-Vincent: [ATTACH=full]2846[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]2847[/ATTACH] David [/QUOTE]
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