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Ethanol going to 10%... the rot sets in for good
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<blockquote data-quote="ClassicBiker" data-source="post: 110611" data-attributes="member: 1632"><p>Just remembered another thing. For awhile the wife drove a 2010 Chevrolet Avalanche, which is flex fuel vehicle and supposed to be able to work on anything from E0 to E85. One day she comes in and tells me it's acting up badly. So I take it for a drive and it's a mess. Won't run properly, seems ready to die at any second, no pickup. So to much electronic wizardry for me to deal with, so off to the dealer. They diagnose the problem as it has been mis-fueled. Correcting the problem and resetting all the electronics is a $400.00 job. I have no choice as she needs the thing. So when I pick it up I pay and ask the service what exactly they mean by mis-fueled. He tells me I must have inadvertently put high alcohol content fuel in it. So I ask him what he means by high alcohol fuel. He tells me anything over E10. So I ask if E85 is high alcohol, he tells me of course it is and that I shouldn't put that in it as it isn't designed to run on that. So I say to him if E85 is bad for it and it isn't designed to run on it why does it says "Flex Fuel" on the bumper and the gas cap say E85 capable and the manual say running on up to fuel containing up to 85% alcohol acceptable. At that point he turned and walked away from me without answering.</p><p>My take is this. Alcohol is hygroscopic, it absorbs water out of the atmosphere. The specific gravity of alcohol is greater than gasoline. Water is greater still. Water and alcohol mix more readily than either do with gasoline. So the higher the alcohol content of the fuel the more readily it will absorb water out of the atmosphere and sink to the lowest point (where the fuel pick up naturally is) and now the engine is trying to operate on water. So one way or another fuel with a high alcohol content found it's way into the fuel tank and the alcohol water mix precipitated out of solution and to the bottom of the fuel tank and that is when engine started running rough.</p><p>Steven</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ClassicBiker, post: 110611, member: 1632"] Just remembered another thing. For awhile the wife drove a 2010 Chevrolet Avalanche, which is flex fuel vehicle and supposed to be able to work on anything from E0 to E85. One day she comes in and tells me it's acting up badly. So I take it for a drive and it's a mess. Won't run properly, seems ready to die at any second, no pickup. So to much electronic wizardry for me to deal with, so off to the dealer. They diagnose the problem as it has been mis-fueled. Correcting the problem and resetting all the electronics is a $400.00 job. I have no choice as she needs the thing. So when I pick it up I pay and ask the service what exactly they mean by mis-fueled. He tells me I must have inadvertently put high alcohol content fuel in it. So I ask him what he means by high alcohol fuel. He tells me anything over E10. So I ask if E85 is high alcohol, he tells me of course it is and that I shouldn't put that in it as it isn't designed to run on that. So I say to him if E85 is bad for it and it isn't designed to run on it why does it says "Flex Fuel" on the bumper and the gas cap say E85 capable and the manual say running on up to fuel containing up to 85% alcohol acceptable. At that point he turned and walked away from me without answering. My take is this. Alcohol is hygroscopic, it absorbs water out of the atmosphere. The specific gravity of alcohol is greater than gasoline. Water is greater still. Water and alcohol mix more readily than either do with gasoline. So the higher the alcohol content of the fuel the more readily it will absorb water out of the atmosphere and sink to the lowest point (where the fuel pick up naturally is) and now the engine is trying to operate on water. So one way or another fuel with a high alcohol content found it's way into the fuel tank and the alcohol water mix precipitated out of solution and to the bottom of the fuel tank and that is when engine started running rough. Steven [/QUOTE]
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