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Comet for the 2020's
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<blockquote data-quote="davidd" data-source="post: 88270" data-attributes="member: 1177"><p>The shorter damper for the Comet rear might be an answer to a problem nobody had. I think the Comet has a 3/4" shorter wheelbase with the Type 2 RFM. When looking at the design I could not see a reason why the wheelbase should not be shorter or longer. The Phils certainly had the opportunity to mount the swing arm on the Comet further back, but chose not to do so. They could have also used the spring eyes to adjust the Comet suspension differently than the twins. They did not do so. I assumed that they were happy withe the Comet wheelbase and the length of the springs and dampers. That is still not a very satisfying answer.</p><p></p><p>In fooling around with the rear suspension I have found it to be pretty forgiving. I have used the Reg Bolton mod to jack up, or lengthen the effective damper/spring length dramatically. I have mounted the damper/springs to the side car hole, which is considerably lower and makes the damper/spring almost parallel to the ground. I also ran the racer with a Type 1 swing arm, which is 1/2" shorter than the Type 2. The handling seems unfazed by these changes. I might make the argument that the Comet has better handling with the longest damper/spring combination available, which steepens the rake and provides more ground clearance. </p><p></p><p>On the upcoming racer I used a UFM that had the attachments snipped of the back. I installed a plate and welded a shock mount to it for a coil over.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]17851[/ATTACH] </p><p></p><p>The blue Sharpie pen shows where the original mount would have been. I thought this to be a low risk mod because the hole can always be moved forward.</p><p></p><p>For the F106, when I cast it up I did elongate the top so I could move the mounting hole upwards. </p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]17852[/ATTACH] </p><p></p><p>I should have made it much longer. With the UFM holes lined up as marked I got the steering head one degree steeper, which is not much, but every little bit seems to help.</p><p></p><p>David</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="davidd, post: 88270, member: 1177"] The shorter damper for the Comet rear might be an answer to a problem nobody had. I think the Comet has a 3/4" shorter wheelbase with the Type 2 RFM. When looking at the design I could not see a reason why the wheelbase should not be shorter or longer. The Phils certainly had the opportunity to mount the swing arm on the Comet further back, but chose not to do so. They could have also used the spring eyes to adjust the Comet suspension differently than the twins. They did not do so. I assumed that they were happy withe the Comet wheelbase and the length of the springs and dampers. That is still not a very satisfying answer. In fooling around with the rear suspension I have found it to be pretty forgiving. I have used the Reg Bolton mod to jack up, or lengthen the effective damper/spring length dramatically. I have mounted the damper/springs to the side car hole, which is considerably lower and makes the damper/spring almost parallel to the ground. I also ran the racer with a Type 1 swing arm, which is 1/2" shorter than the Type 2. The handling seems unfazed by these changes. I might make the argument that the Comet has better handling with the longest damper/spring combination available, which steepens the rake and provides more ground clearance. On the upcoming racer I used a UFM that had the attachments snipped of the back. I installed a plate and welded a shock mount to it for a coil over. [ATTACH=full]17851[/ATTACH] The blue Sharpie pen shows where the original mount would have been. I thought this to be a low risk mod because the hole can always be moved forward. For the F106, when I cast it up I did elongate the top so I could move the mounting hole upwards. [ATTACH=full]17852[/ATTACH] I should have made it much longer. With the UFM holes lined up as marked I got the steering head one degree steeper, which is not much, but every little bit seems to help. David [/QUOTE]
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