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Burman 4th Gear Selector Meltdown
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<blockquote data-quote="Matty" data-source="post: 64268" data-attributes="member: 1339"><p>Hi all</p><p>Much water has passed under bridges since the original investigation into the "4th gear burnout problem" some time ago.</p><p>At the time I checked the damaged gearbox parts sent to me by I think Tatty 500 and though the 4th Gear dogs were a bit tapered when I assembled the gears into my casing but they seemed to engage by about 2.5 at least, which was about the same as my gears which had not been any problem.</p><p>However I optimise the end floats etc. on my box to ensure that I did not get a 4th gear problem and my box ( with a second hand replacement casing because mine was cracked and leaked) worked fine for 10,000 miles or so.</p><p>Then a couple of weeks ago my box started to whine and grind horribly in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears and I found that the driveside layshaft bush had seized and severely damaged the casing.</p><p>This has been repaired by a very competent local engineer (bored in line and a new oversized bush fitted ) and now has been rebuilt and is quiet and working fine.</p><p> BUT when rebuilding the box I thought a bit more LATERALLY and think I now understand why the apparently good damaged parts from Tatty500 had failed.</p><p></p><p>It was probably the VERY WELL KNOWN Burman problem of the gear indicator pressing on the gear lever in 4th and not allowing the gear to fully engage. This is caused by the gear lever being one spline too far round (upwards) so the dogs are not fully engaged and put great pressure on the selectors, causing them to overheat with friction and sieze onto the sliding gear.</p><p></p><p>Does this look likely as the cause of the 4th gear problems experienced by a few people?</p><p></p><p>Matty - perhaps a few years late with the real answer !!!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Matty, post: 64268, member: 1339"] Hi all Much water has passed under bridges since the original investigation into the "4th gear burnout problem" some time ago. At the time I checked the damaged gearbox parts sent to me by I think Tatty 500 and though the 4th Gear dogs were a bit tapered when I assembled the gears into my casing but they seemed to engage by about 2.5 at least, which was about the same as my gears which had not been any problem. However I optimise the end floats etc. on my box to ensure that I did not get a 4th gear problem and my box ( with a second hand replacement casing because mine was cracked and leaked) worked fine for 10,000 miles or so. Then a couple of weeks ago my box started to whine and grind horribly in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd gears and I found that the driveside layshaft bush had seized and severely damaged the casing. This has been repaired by a very competent local engineer (bored in line and a new oversized bush fitted ) and now has been rebuilt and is quiet and working fine. BUT when rebuilding the box I thought a bit more LATERALLY and think I now understand why the apparently good damaged parts from Tatty500 had failed. It was probably the VERY WELL KNOWN Burman problem of the gear indicator pressing on the gear lever in 4th and not allowing the gear to fully engage. This is caused by the gear lever being one spline too far round (upwards) so the dogs are not fully engaged and put great pressure on the selectors, causing them to overheat with friction and sieze onto the sliding gear. Does this look likely as the cause of the 4th gear problems experienced by a few people? Matty - perhaps a few years late with the real answer !!! [/QUOTE]
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