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<blockquote data-quote="Prosper Keating" data-source="post: 9834" data-attributes="member: 1376"><p>I think you're mixing things up here. Graham reckoned that it would cost far more than £30k to build a working twin. The VOCSC's own statement that their costs were covered by the £30k sale price eventually realised for their replica proves this. In fact, the VOCSC stated that the project cost £28k. </p><p></p><p>A man with the determination - and access to certain facilities and resources - could probably build himself a Black Shadow for £30k or less. After all, the VOCSC managed it and that was despite all their other considerable commitments. </p><p></p><p>I'll grant you that someone ordering parts from the VOCSC and other established suppliers and paying a commercial specialist to turn them into a working motorcycle would certainly pay far more than than £30k, once list prices, tax, hourly labour rates, painting work, plus all the other unexpected costs when contracting people to do the work were taken into account. </p><p></p><p>The VOCSC suggested that complete new twin motors would cost around £18k when they unveiled the prototype or project motor in 2006. This gels with your estimate. However, you are, I think, referring to retail prices. Retail prices on average tend to be around 40% above wholesale or trade. £18k - £7.2k = £10.8k. </p><p></p><p>A working motor resembling a 1940s Vincent 1000cc engine could be produced for around £10k ex-works. There would be some internal differences. A couple of fairly serious people have costed such a project and it is feasible. Whether or not it will be implemented is another matter entirely, of course. Given the current economic conditions, there seems little mileage to be gained - sorry - from producing ten grand motors for petrolheads. After all, ten grand is a lot of change for most people. </p><p></p><p>PK</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Prosper Keating, post: 9834, member: 1376"] I think you're mixing things up here. Graham reckoned that it would cost far more than £30k to build a working twin. The VOCSC's own statement that their costs were covered by the £30k sale price eventually realised for their replica proves this. In fact, the VOCSC stated that the project cost £28k. A man with the determination - and access to certain facilities and resources - could probably build himself a Black Shadow for £30k or less. After all, the VOCSC managed it and that was despite all their other considerable commitments. I'll grant you that someone ordering parts from the VOCSC and other established suppliers and paying a commercial specialist to turn them into a working motorcycle would certainly pay far more than than £30k, once list prices, tax, hourly labour rates, painting work, plus all the other unexpected costs when contracting people to do the work were taken into account. The VOCSC suggested that complete new twin motors would cost around £18k when they unveiled the prototype or project motor in 2006. This gels with your estimate. However, you are, I think, referring to retail prices. Retail prices on average tend to be around 40% above wholesale or trade. £18k - £7.2k = £10.8k. A working motor resembling a 1940s Vincent 1000cc engine could be produced for around £10k ex-works. There would be some internal differences. A couple of fairly serious people have costed such a project and it is feasible. Whether or not it will be implemented is another matter entirely, of course. Given the current economic conditions, there seems little mileage to be gained - sorry - from producing ten grand motors for petrolheads. After all, ten grand is a lot of change for most people. PK [/QUOTE]
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