Derek thinks he has a problem in Southport, with the sea only on one side, here I have the sea on all four sides. But I don`t have a problem, why ? because I have a Vincent. A few years ago went to the Lakes Rally for a day trip, when I arrived, I was aked `What are you doing her ?` replied, I`ve come for a little trip, to warm up the engine and get it prepped for the winter vacation, i.e. I got some oil mist all over the bike. For those that did know that bike, it was only stainless and aluminium. The bike`s down the west country now, and I doubt it has a problem. That little trip was only 850 miles, between 8 on Saturday morning, til 4 on Sunday afternoon.