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K: Tools Toolbox lid dimension

Simon Dinsdale

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Does anybody have an original Vincent factory made toolbox lid for series B or C on their bike or in their spares that they can measure.

I'm after the external dimension of the toolbox lid front to back external dimension (not side to side) so if you have an original toolbox lid that was made by the factory could you measure it to the nearest 1/16" and post the dimension here. It does need to be an original though as I have several aftermarket ones that I have already measured which all vary slightly. The dimension should be around 8".
Thanks
Simon
 

Alyson

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Does anybody have an original Vincent factory made toolbox lid for series B or C on their bike or in their spares that they can measure.

I'm after the external dimension of the toolbox lid front to back external dimension (not side to side) so if you have an original toolbox lid that was made by the factory could you measure it to the nearest 1/16" and post the dimension here. It does need to be an original though as I have several aftermarket ones that I have already measured which all vary slightly. The dimension should be around 8".
Thanks
Simon
Hi Simon, I have a N.O.S. lid and can make a drawing for you if you still need.....
 

TouringComet

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This seat is completely as is, from when my father stopped riding his Shadow in the late 50's. The plywood, seat foam, cover, hardware are all as is. The tool tray lid is from back then, but true, I cannot guarantee it is absolutely the one that the factory supplied. My father did add the slot, he put a lock on the side of the tool tray itself. I read it as 7 and 3/8ths.

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bmetcalf

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I bought a new slider for the long seat I built in 2019. It was a bit too wide for my old tool tray and I lost several tools when it fell out. I've had to bash it tighter to work properly. If I was making my own, I'd measure the tool tray and bend the slider to suit, maybe comparing the dimensions and clearances to other good examples.
 

Simon Dinsdale

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I'm not making a tool tray or lid, I was just wanting to know the dimension of an original. I'm making some of the original type leather Vincent factory panniers and articulated mounting system and the two cast brackets that fit under the seat have to fit in a specific place and I wanted to check they didn't interfere with an original toolbox. The toolbox on my Shadow has a lid measuring 8" and just all fits in so anything less is not a problem.
Simon
 

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TouringComet

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For clearance to the panniers, besides the dimension of the tray/lid, it also depends on where the lid is mounted, how far back from the front seat mounts.
 

Simon Dinsdale

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For clearance to the panniers, besides the dimension of the tray/lid, it also depends on where the lid is mounted, how far back from the front seat mounts.
It works the other way round. The factory designed the mounting system brackets of the panniers to fit in a specific position and the toolbox then has to fit round it. If the toolbox is mounted too far back then it has to be moved forward as you cannot move the brackets.
Unless you have an oversize non original toolbox then it looks like it's not a problem.
 

highbury731

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My Rapide was taken off the road around the end of 1960. I can expect the tool tray lid to be an original Vincent one. I didn't get a tool tray with the bike, and bought a VOC Spares one. It fitted perfectly.
Paul
 

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