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Technical Officers report MPH 724

macvette

Well Known and Active Website User
Non-VOC Member
I must have missed something somewhere. What is WitakerPedia and where can I find the articles mentioned in the report?
 
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Deleted member 1616

Guest
Hi,

WhitakerPedia appears after you log on as a VOC member under Articles. If you are a member. If not, good reason to join
 

Graham Smith

Well Known and Active Website User
VOC Member
VOC Forum Administrator
VOC Forum Moderator
You need to go to www.voc.uk.net (the Members only part of the VOC's main website), enter your details, then navigate to Articles/WitakerPedia.

If you get stuck, Bill Parr is the person to contact.
 

Albervin

Well Known and Active Website User
VOC Member
You need to go to www.voc.uk.net (the Members only part of the VOC's main website), enter your details, then navigate to Articles/WitakerPedia.

If you get stuck, Bill Parr is the person to contact.
Great site! I have just visited old articles on "A"s & "B"s. Also read an article about the Vincent Special badge which prompted me to walk over to my "badge board" & have a look at mine for the first time in a few years. There are obviously hours of (not necessarily) wasted time that can be spent here. I take my hat off to all of you who put this together.
 

Henry Martini

Well Known and Active Website User
Non-VOC Member
www.voc.co.uk

Hi whoever,
I can't log onto the www.voc.co.uk site as we don't have or need Zip or post codes here in little Ireland. Could the person who looks after this log on feature please set MY post code to D18 so that I can log on.

PS I assume I use the same password as I now use to log on

Thanking you in advance,
Henry Martini
 

Graham Smith

Well Known and Active Website User
VOC Member
VOC Forum Administrator
VOC Forum Moderator
Please be aware that the Club Forum (this site), and the Club's other site (www.voc.uk.com or www.voc.uk.net) are two completely different things.

The passwords are not necessarily the same for both sites.

Henry - you DO have a postcode listed on the Club's membership database - I will send you a personal message regarding this.
 

Vic Youel

Well Known and Active Website User
Non-VOC Member
Whitakerpedia

I am struggling with this;

1. Using Firefox I can only get the response "www.voc.uk.com uses an invalid security certificate. Access to the site is therefore denied.

The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.

(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)"

2. However using Explorer I was able to get my password entered but although I get notified that the site is secure I get alarms from my firewall (zone alarm) that the system is attempting a hijack.

It is probable the problems are with my own computer but I have not experienced such problems with any other secure site such as my bank(s) ebay etc. So I am a little suspicious of the veracity of this club web site.

Vic:confused::confused:

By the way the W....pedia stuff is superb and the effort made by the composers is to be applauded and just what the internet is all about.
 

Tom Gaynor

Well Known and Active Website User
VOC Member
Insecurity

I had a similar problem. I solved it by ignoring the Zone Alarm warnings.

I am struggling with this;

1. Using Firefox I can only get the response "www.voc.uk.com uses an invalid security certificate. Access to the site is therefore denied.

The certificate is not trusted because the issuer certificate is unknown.

(Error code: sec_error_unknown_issuer)"

2. However using Explorer I was able to get my password entered but although I get notified that the site is secure I get alarms from my firewall (zone alarm) that the system is attempting a hijack.

It is probable the problems are with my own computer but I have not experienced such problems with any other secure site such as my bank(s) ebay etc. So I am a little suspicious of the veracity of this club web site.

Vic:confused::confused:

By the way the W....pedia stuff is superb and the effort made by the composers is to be applauded and just what the internet is all about.
 
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Bikersally

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Vincent action in the NE of Scotland?

Tom,
Any 'Vincent' action up here in the NE???? Haven't heard or seen anything on the road this year.
Since Captain 'V' is back on the scene I gave him a noise up the other day to see what he's got on the road. We're going for a mid week run up the West Coast since his B'rap is on the road :)
You doing the 'cairn' run? I very much doubt I'll be there but I'm hoping that Scottie Bruce from Westhill will take my rusty trusty Comet on the run. There will be a fair performance when he attempts to start it, being a Jap man through and through he struggles to get his head round gears / brakes on opposite sides. :eek:
I'll tell him to look out for you if your going.

Mileage this year
Rap=113
Comet=255
Velo Lemon=0
 

wparr2

Active Website User
VOC Member
Members Only website

The correct procedure for logging in is give your
a) membership number (in lower case or upper case)
b) postcode/zipcode (in lower case or upper case)
for UK members in the format XXxxspacexXX
c) password (if you have one) it is important that you put the password in
exactly as you've established it initially.
(i.e. upper case and lower case do matter)


The website uses the secure protocol https throughout. This means that there is a digital certificate, purchased from GlobalSign. Unfortunately, this is not recognized by Firefox (which typically throws a warning about the certificate not being from a trusted authority). It is, fortunately, recognized by Internet Explorer. If you're using Firefox then just proceed.
There have been some reports that third party firewalls (e.g. Zone Alarm)
may cause problems (warnings about hijacks); it is safe to ignore these
warnings.
 

vin998

Well Known and Active Website User
VOC Member
VOC Forum Moderator
I initially had the "postcode not recognised" problem, and then put a space in the middle of the postcode. ie "ab12 3cd" and then it worked. The login is sensitive to putting a space in the middle of your postcode.
 

Tom Gaynor

Well Known and Active Website User
VOC Member
Vincents in the NE

I run mine about 5 times a week, but have had to deal with a family bereavement. I fancy a run over to the west (apart from Applecross in June), but this week and next are out. I believe Victor G is at the SSDT this week, but probably on The Behemoth.
Keep me posted. I've have made it "Three go West on Vincents" had the timing (of the run..) been right.
I won't be at the Cairn, which clashes with something I'm committed to.

Tom,
Any 'Vincent' action up here in the NE???? Haven't heard or seen anything on the road this year.
Since Captain 'V' is back on the scene I gave him a noise up the other day to see what he's got on the road. We're going for a mid week run up the West Coast since his B'rap is on the road :)
You doing the 'cairn' run? I very much doubt I'll be there but I'm hoping that Scottie Bruce from Westhill will take my rusty trusty Comet on the run. There will be a fair performance when he attempts to start it, being a Jap man through and through he struggles to get his head round gears / brakes on opposite sides. :eek:
I'll tell him to look out for you if your going.

Mileage this year
Rap=113
Comet=255
Velo Lemon=0
 
V

VOC Machine Registrar

Guest
Vic,

I wrote about this problem some months ago in MPH.

The problem is that certain browser programmes such as Firefox and Safari do not recognise the Issuing agent of the Certificate of Authenticity that is used for the VOC site. In simple terms, they do not have their name on their check list.

This is all very annoying as the Club pay good money for certification.
We have tried to rectify this fault but to no avail.

When faced with the drop down that says the certificate is not valid just select the ignore option and carry on.
 
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Vic Youel

Well Known and Active Website User
Non-VOC Member
VOC Web Site Security

Andy,

I have been researching this and believe that there should be no problem with Globalsign...see http://www.globalsign.co.uk/digital_certificate/ev-ssl-certificate/index.htm They cater for most browsers including well established browsers such as Safari and Firefox in addition to Windows Explorer.

Globalsign is very well established and trusted so I do not understand why you think the problem resides with them. Firefox is on their list.

I am wondering whether the security problem is more to do with the VOC host server hardware and software?

Firefox, for example, works fine with Natwest, Santander, Paypal etc etc......

Zone Alarm is also a well established and, as far as I am concerned, a trusted firewall system that is continuously updated.

Sadly I will not be using the site for any financial transactions while I continue to experience security warnings. So hopefully Bill Parr will be able to find time to look into this at some time in the future.


Vic
 

PaulB

Well Known and Active Website User
Non-VOC Member
Hi Vic,
You are right about the GlobalSign website saying that they support various browsers including Firefox, so we're not sure why there is an issue at the moment.
I will look into it this week and report back.
However, what I can assure you is that there are no issues with either the server hardware or software. In addition, the server sits behind a recognised industry leading firewall.
In reality, it doesn't actually matter if the browser recognises the signing authority, the connection is still fully encrypted under the HTTPS protocol.
I'll report back after talking to GlobalSign this week.
Regards,
Paul
 

PaulB

Well Known and Active Website User
Non-VOC Member
GlobalSign update:
On detailed investigation, it transpired that Firefox doesn't entirely play by the established rules of SSL security certificates, which causes it not to recognise many valid certificates.
However, having got to the bottom of the issue, the resolution was actually pretty simple and took very little time to rectify.
Therefore, can those of you using Firefox as your preferred browser please check again on the club website and see if you still have a problem with it not recognising the certificate.
If you still have a problem, please either report back here or send me an email.
Thank you.
 
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