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Saddle springs series A



Andy B

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#1
If I was to get some springs made up for the series A single seat, would there be much interest? I have an original set which is very rusty and pitted, I envisage they will cost around $80 dollars Australian plus postage, depends on how many he makes? Let me know I'm happy to get one pair.
 

vibrac

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#2
Open up your market by quoting size of springs I am sure there are a lot of sagging saddles out there and not all vincents
 

oexing

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#4
I do not think it is a worthwhile exercise. These springs appear to be very "standard", at least I would not care about the last fraction of an inch in sizes and get some sort from Armours or so, look into their shop below. You can set saddle height easily by fabricating the distance piece at the bottom of the spring to your liking anyway. I am going to have single rubber seats on the B-Rapides like prewar but would not care about spring exactness in sizes,

Vic
Armours springs
 

vin998

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#5
Only problem with the Armours saddle springs is they are all wound the same direction.
On series A saddles one spring is wound clockwise and the other spring counter clockwise to stop the seat trying to move sideways when it moves up and down.
 

vibrac

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#6
hence my reference to sagging above I am sure the opposite wound would stir more than Vincent backsides myself I have same wound Triumph Scott & vellocette seats that would benifit (and I would not care if op wound was not standard or if length needed accomodating) and perhaps with a larger batch the cost would be viable for normal machines and get towards Armours costs ( around £16 a pair)
 

oexing

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#7
I wonder how other bikers manage to keep their lines on the road with these single type springs ?? I have one sort of springs on the 600 cc Horex and never observed any pecularities and the other Horex has only ONE spring - so how do I cope with that ?? You cannot possibly compensate torsion with one spring only , can you ?
I´d say do something about your knackered saddle pivot and springs will not matter the least. That will provide a much better feel in the saddle than any fancy spring design when the root cause is a sloppy pivot - that remains even with better springs.

Vic
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vin998

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#8
Vic
Its nothing to do with worn pivots etc. Vincent fitted counter wound springs when new to their series A saddles so if Andy wants to be original, which most series A owners usually want to be now days, then that's what he is aiming to get made.
 

Dinny

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#9
Maybe contact Kieth Lucas as he might have some left over from his seat making days? I got my complete seat frame and springs from him but I don’t think he makes them now but could be wrong.

Mark
 

vin998

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#11
The springs on mine came from Keith Lucas 10 years ago and they look parallel. I don't have an original set to compare against.
 

A_HRD

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#12
Andy B posted a photo of his original springs in the earlier thread on this subject titled Saddle Springs - Series A (and other pre-war....).

They are identical to mine and identical to the ones in Keith Lucas's kits (except Keith's are slightly thicker gauge wire because we are all heavier these days!). Now that Keith has presumably stopped producing them, I would say there is a market for them.

But I would like to think that there was a company in the UK who could meet the UK demand - rather than risk the expensive importation costs from abroad which could nearly double the price!

Peter B
 

Andy B

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These are the springs, I'm not going into marketing and not looking to make a profit, I have asked for a price from the spring man and he wants $125 per set or he will do 10 sets for $75 per set, but if nobody needs them then I will proceed with the one set. They will probably be a slightly thicker gauge but as you can see they are counter wound and have a shorter end connection onto the seat, similar to a bantam but not as long.
 

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timetraveller

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#17
Some of you will be aware that I have had several hundred springs made over the last few years to fit to the JE steering heads. These springs are less complicated than the seat ones mentioned above but cost £30 per pair. I have no knowledge of Series A s but if you would like to come up with a rough number which are likely to be ordered between you, and let me have some drawings or other specs, then I will see if they can better the prices above.
 


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