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ossie

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VOC Member
I Have Some Photos Of The V Twin Rally In Purfleet Essex From The 60s But How Do I Get Them On To The Web Site I Do Have A Scanner But Am Restricted By My Computer No How Etc.

If I Can Be Pointed In The Right Direction I Will Sort Out Any More Which Maybe Of Interest.
Ossie
 

nkt267

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VOC Member
I'll tell you how mine works(I have an epson scanner)Open your scanner programme,pop your selected photo in the scanner and using the program buttons scan the picture.You should be asked where you want to save the file,mine has a browse button so that I can select a folder and I usually select My Pictures.You should also be given a chance to name the photo so that you can recognise the pic later on.Once scan is finalised the photo will be saved to your picture files( I have a folder in 'My Pictures' ,which is already set out in Microsoft Windows,that I called Vincent).
When you go into the photos section of the forum you will see a section in the header marked 'upload',click on this.A new window will open with a load of spaces on it with a browse button beside each space,click the browse button and select the location of your picture then select your picture and follow any other directions that appear and the tiltle of your pic will show in one of the spaces.Scroll down the screen and you will see an upload button and then just follow the rest of the instructions.Other replies may be better..John
 

ossie

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VOC Member
photo

it took me a while but i cracked it,but i must now remember the process.
short memory span and all that.
 

daveinnola

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Non-VOC Member
hi as a new person on this site i got a couple of things to say that might be of help first scan them at the highest resolution you can , it takes time but it helps , most modern scanners have some kind of software that will realy help , scan them a couple of times in different modes , and see which looks the best to you , all scanners have different names for the treatments they do ie greyscale might work great on one scanner or auto contrast on another , or levels on another , the trick is never try to print anything , once you have found a picture that looks great to you and you want a print , stop ! put it on a cd , you can put 700 pictures on a cd , then take your uneducated butt to a camera shop / wall mart or any other superstore supermarket thats around , and give them your cd they will download the cd and show you what the print is going to look like if you like it give them the nod , as for pictures published on this site there are two kinds , modern and old , the modern are real clear and the color is great , then you always have the proud owner cluttering the background , ect ect , great your black prince was the last off the line , but all of the modern clutter around it spoils the picture , other other side is old pictures instermatic / semi pro , both suffer from poor color / fading or weird color wash , a easy fix if you have photoshop i have it and i will only be to happy to fix stuff free
 

Diogenes

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Non-VOC Member
Photos Spoilt on Web Site

Is there a good [or even a bad] reason for disfiguring excellent photos by adding the VOC logo/badge?
 

daveinnola

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Non-VOC Member
off the logos

there might be a reason to put them on there? but watermarks are like padlocks they only keep honest people out , i guess it must be the guy they pay to do the site selling bells and lights , watermarks can be removed with simple software , or with photoshop which i like because it makes me look at the picture more , but the bottom line is watermarks are like grafitti , if you want the world to see your pictures you put them online , if sombody takes them and puts them on other sites and more people see them , great , i,ll give you a point in fact put dj norton into your search engine , and you will find a site that is a collection of pictures a guys deceased dad took with a good camera and a good eye of british rail from 1949 to 1963 , some of the pictures are stunning , i took one and put it on flicker and 56 people viewed it in a day more people viewed it in a day than visted his site , and he aint got water marks , :cool:now with the vincent people being so close knit (no joke,s please) would they support a book with stolen pictures? ...... no so thats the only way of making any kind of money , so why watermarks ? lol dave
 

Graham Smith

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VOC Forum Administrator
VOC Forum Moderator
Dave (daveinnola)

The point is - the people who post these images on our site, give the Vincent H.R.D. Owners Club their permission to use these images in any way we see fit in furtherance of the Club's interests. They don't give that permission to you, me personally, or Jo Bloggs down the road. If you feel the need to download these images (for whatever purpose you have in mind), then re-touch out our Club logo, then that's up to you. I hope it takes you lots of time.

A more sensible thing to do would be to contact the person who took the photograph, and ask them to send you the high-resolution version. After all, they are the one that holds the copyright.

Now, in a previous post, you stated that:
theres not one picture i would steal from this site
If that is the case, I don't understand why you're so against the VOC putting a watermark over an image that has been supplied by one of our Members.

If and when you join the VOC, please feel free to ask your Section Organiser to bring this matter up at the next General Committee Meeting.
 

Graham Smith

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Confused

Sorry - perhaps I should have said this in my previous message, but if you dislike so many things about our forum and photo hosting facility (I do know the vast majority of Vincent enthusiasts love it), why do you keep visiting us?
 

Debbie Kemp

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VOC Member
i guess it must be the guy they pay to do the site selling bells and lights

Gosh, you really haven't got a clue about the VOC, have you? Maybe if someone points out that the guy that spends so many hours running this fantastic forum does it for FREE, to benefit members, then you won't be so quick to knock his hard work.
 

Rapide998

Active Website User
Non-VOC Member
Forgive me if you don't agree here, but I personaly feel that any pictures that I put up are for the viewing pleasure :p of fellow VOC member.
Perhaps we can have a picture section for members only:rolleyes:.
That's the reason I haven't uploaded any of my vincent or other motorcycling pictures complete with bike reg numbers to prevent folk like daveinnola "stealing" the pictures and posting on other sites.
The fact he refers to the word "steal" makes me suspicous of him...
So nainama bike photies fur you matey:mad:
 
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Graham Smith

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VOC Forum Administrator
VOC Forum Moderator
It would be very easy to 'close the door' of the photos section to non-VOC Members. - as easy as closing the door to Floggers Corner.

My only concern is that we really want this site to be the place people visit when they want to know anything about Vincent Motorcycles. If we close the door too tightly, another site will open up somewhere else offering the material that we don't. I'm sure we're now the No. 1 Vincent-related site around, and we really don't want to lose that title.

It's a tough one to call. What do YOU think?
 

nkt267

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VOC Member
I'm not bothered if people take photos off our site or not.I would hate to think that we close the doors to anyone who has an interest in Vincents.As to the complaint of all the 'modern clutter ' in the photos if you want showroom photos of Vincents then there are places you can get them.Primarily we are a RIDERS club and our bikes are shown being used and not shown as old fossils or display items.The Vincent Owners Club is alive and well and thriving and generally admired for being so.The comments about Vincents being ridden everywhere,and ridden as Vincents were intended to be:D, at the Manx testifies to this.
 

BlackLightning998

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VOC Member
Keep the Photo's available

I vote for keeping the photo's available, I give the site address to a whole load of folks I meet up with who ask interesting questions and have had some great feedback from people who've looked - especially at the pictures.

Speaking as someone who's loaded quite a few, I tend to get snap happy when I go to events, and not all of them are pure Vincent, and then post them in the hope that they may be of interest to people who were not able to attend. Fingers crossed there may be someone out there who is not as fortunate as me in terms of being mobile and able to ride, and might enjoy seeing pictures posted of events around the UK that they couldn't get to.

I can't think of too many reasons that someone might wish to "steal" a picture to do bad things with (you can copy and paste one off e-bay if you were an ebay scammer), but then that may well be because my mind does not work that way.

However, eventually the VOC will die unless it finds ways to attract a new membership, fact. I think that the Forum is one way to do that and three cheers for Graham, I just do not know how he does it, but it is a fabulous job and works for me 11 out of 10. I think it is one of the greatest innovations I can imagine in the recent history of the VOC which I find, on the whole, a very friendly and helpful place to be.

Accessing photographs is just one more way, if people can see pictures of events that they can then go to, can see friendly faces at VOC events enjoying motorcyling and other things then it might just encourage one more person to join, and I think that it a good thing.

And staying on membership for a second, if only we could find a way to let the Club Black Shadow contribute to converting people to the love and joy of owning a Vincent by letting people try it, and pushing membership numbers up, then that would be a good thing in my book.

If someone comes on the site and doesn't like it, fine - don't come again. If someone wants to spend time airbrushing the watermark - fine, but if you email me I'll send you the picture anyway.

Keep them open for people to see and enjoy, that's why I post them.

Stuart
 

clevtrev

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VOC Member
It would be very easy to 'close the door' of the photos section to non-VOC Members. - as easy as closing the door to Floggers Corner.

My only concern is that we really want this site to be the place people visit when they want to know anything about Vincent Motorcycles. If we close the door too tightly, another site will open up somewhere else offering the material that we don't. I'm sure we're now the No. 1 Vincent-related site around, and we really don't want to lose that title.

It's a tough one to call. What do YOU think?
Is it possible to restrict the photo`s to view only, not available for copying.
 

Graham Smith

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VOC Forum Administrator
VOC Forum Moderator
Unfortunately, if a company like Microsoft can't protect their operating systems and the like from the counterfeiters, what chance do we stand in stopping people copying the photos of our Members?!
 

Rapide998

Active Website User
Non-VOC Member
Completely with you on your feeling on this Graham, also agree with Stuart and nkt267 my Vinny was out today for a gallop so certainly ridden and not hidden as should be.:)
If it contibutes to our site being the numero uno then I'm all for keeping it "as is" but I will not post any photos of my vincents.
Perhaps I'm just being overly Cautious with my reg numbers, locations ect.
and the fact i'm annoyed somewhat that some guy comes on here and start spouting off about the pictures folk go to the bother of uploading because they don't come up to his expectations in order that he can "steal" them for another site :mad:
 
Theft or not?

This dave bloke has a photo on this forum with the caption 'borrowed from the sandspeedwales.com web site, a large site getting bigger by the day'.
This site is now closed down and I wonder if Lynn knows that HIS photos are getting used on other websites.
He has also been putting photos on that "not as good as this site" thevincent.com:p

As to the question of members only access, my view is let the public see our bikes but airbrush out the number plate and if you cant do that than ask Graham to do it when he puts the VOC watermark on it.
 

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