Tim, better be careful as JMC has ears and eyes in the club. My impression is that a new order for a bike assists in paying for a previous order. I know Patrick was cash starved at one stage and things got a little strange. I have also been told that a similar thing happens at JMC. As I am in Australia I feel I can say these things with both knowledge and the curse of distance. Remember back in 1986 I accused Atlantic Motorcycles of devious dealing and despite all the threats nothing eventuated. Even dear old Ted backed off.I do get the impression that capital does not stay in the business it's all a bit cash in hand and hand to mouth