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Loctite of the ages

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oexing

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The ball joint example is not a good choice , you can hit the puller very close to the taper. With the flywheel not so. I´d think any hit on the rim will spread the shock wave into the whole component and not much arrives at the taper fit and the hit will be waisted. First step for an effective puller device would be two bigger threads in the flywheel to take the higher loads from the puller into the assembly. So then one or two hard whacks on the puller center should free the lot. I have never had to do otherwise on the BMW parts, not even thinking of hitting the rim. My guess, the Douglas taper is smaller than the 35mm size on the Earles BMW, but possibly the angle of the Douglas taper is below 5 degrees and hence the troubles with it, a design mistake then.

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Cyborg

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What controls the end float on the crank? Might be something to consider when hitting the puller. You want to get as much tension on the puller as possible to limit the size of the hammer. As previously mentioned, remember that nut needs to be on there to control the flight of the flywheel.
 

Bill Thomas

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This is the Austin Mini Puller, The three bolts were only 3/8", And you can see the ball bearing in the end,
Which someone told us about, But it was used with small fitting in the end of the crank, The crank was hollow !.
The other thing I like was the H.T. Bolts were done up until the end of the threads, So locking the threads,
And I think making them stronger ?.
 

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greg brillus

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Geez Bill, I can remember removing a few flywheels off mini's years ago........They use to come off with a bang.......The worst one was the boss inherited an Austin 1300 auto and I can't remember for the life of me how I got that one apart.........All I had was Mini's when i did my apprenticeship......... I remember doing a "Home job" on a relatives Mini.........we lifted the engine out by hand........madness.
 

Bill Thomas

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Morning Greg, Yes there is not much I have not done on Minis, Might be why I have a bad Back !,
Being over 6 foot.
We used to have to strip Engine and gearbox after only a few miles, To stop oil leaks !!.
I was going to say how Horrid they were, But I know you liked them :D .
If it was an Auto, It didn't have a flywheel ??.
But my Memory is Bad, Along with everything else !.
Could not think of the name !!, Google it !!, Torque Converter.
 
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Robert Watson

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Having done as Bill said many years ago I found a great solution to fixing Minis. A local lad named Nolan Kitchener, been written up in mini magazine, race a turbo one, just nuts about them. He rebuilt this motor after one of my indiscretions. It's a 1275 motor 40 over with lumpy pistons and a big SU with superflow manifold and tall gears, big fuel tank big radiator and the Cooper disks up front. terrible little car, noisy, bumpy always needs something, but its hers so I have to look after it.

Now Tim we are tired of you not getting that flywheel off so get out to the workshop and get it done before this thread really gets derailed!

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Bill Thomas

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I think we should all meet up at Tim's,
Greg, Get on the Bus. :D
I bought my Wife a Mini for Her birthday, Went down like a Lead Balloon !.
 
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Bill Thomas

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Another reason I wanted two holes in the alloy case, If two people hit at the same time, It would have to give,
Tim has a Big Son.
I am sure Tim could make up 2 Alloy plugs afterwards.
 

Robert Watson

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I think we should all meet up at Tim's,
Greg, Get on the Bus. :D
I bought my Wife a Mini for Her birthday, Went down like a Lead Balloon !.
I'll see if I can get permission to use the mini (promise to try and not blow the engine this time) and drive over to Tim's with the rest of you. I'll bring my biggest hammer.
 

vibrac

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I am also going to add a 12mm thread to the extractor head so it all else fails I will make a slide hammer with some allthread
Tomorrow when its cooler I will make the MK2 tool
 

Bill Thomas

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No, I have fooled you Peter, That was 5 years ago, I have gone down hill a bit since then,
Blank out a few of those teeth, But still got my hair :D .
Can't tell you how many times the Wife askes if I have finished the 560,
I told Her I had been out on my NEW L/ning, But it was only a new seat and "D" centre stand,
Looks like a new bike to me.
 

Sakura

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Geez Bill, I can remember removing a few flywheels off mini's years ago........They use to come off with a bang.......The worst one was the boss inherited an Austin 1300 auto and I can't remember for the life of me how I got that one apart.........All I had was Mini's when i did my apprenticeship......... I remember doing a "Home job" on a relatives Mini.........we lifted the engine out by hand........madness.
Exactly the same experiences here!! I was also sent on the Mini/1100 Auto course. After a week the jaded instructor's advice was " leave it to the Main Dealer, you lot, working in dirty ( insert suitable expletive) garages will never get them to work again!" He was probably right, fortunately I never had to find out. Also remember fitting new rings to 1800's, British Leyland wouldn't agree to a warranty claim if they were doing more than 300 miles per pint! Shades of Vincent. How times have changed. I haven't added any oil between services in 30+ years.
 

Bill Thomas

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I got a cloth badge for being a Austin Morris Man, The only thing I ever had, It was done by post !, I never went anywhere, When I worked for an Austin Dealer.
The Allegrow ? with the square steering wheel !. All Rubbish.
 

greg brillus

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I still recon a hotted up "A" series Mini is the best sounding 4 cylinder car engine of all time........Now I am mad as a Hatter but i know my favorite sounds.......Anyone get goosebumps when a Spit or Mustang does a low fly over.........;)
 

Robert Watson

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OK here we go again ---- sideways.

A few years ago we were at a small airport in northern Washington state (Concrete - name of the town not the construction of the runway) and Tony Cording and I had fueled up the Vincents and were waiting for a couple of others when I heard it. A very short while later the P51 came over the runway a couple of hundred feet off the deck gave a 360 barrel roll and flew off. When I heard it again I said to Tony "Here he comes again" I was wrong, It was a Spitfire, did the same thing. They were from Microsoft co-founder Paul Allen's collection based just outside of Seattle.

I am having a flashback for you Greg!

Good times
 
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