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G: Gearbox Kick start rubber


Michel

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Hi everybody.
I am looking for a rubber supplier for the Burman kick of the Comet Serie C and (if possible) the Albion kick of the Comet Serie A.
Can you give me websites (except VOC Spare).
Thank you.
 

Nulli Secundus

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Hi everybody.
I am looking for a rubber supplier for the Burman kick of the Comet Serie C and (if possible) the Albion kick of the Comet Serie A.
Can you give me websites (except VOC Spare).
Thank you.
I think you mean Burman for the Series A Comet as well.
 

MartynG

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There was no rubber fitted to the kickstart on a "C" Comet with a standard Burman gearbox.
 

Michel

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You are right, but I prefer to fit one because It's easier when weather is wet.
And about Burman pre-war (Comet) and Albion post-war (Grey Flash on the road) ?
 

ericg

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I had a lot of very bad experiences with Draganfly. Definitely not recommended.
Have a look at BSA forums.
 

vibrac

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Most of the classic ones come from one UK supplier anyway
 

ericg

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Most of the classic ones come from one UK supplier anyway
And they are all crap. Kickstart and gear lever rubbers last about 3 months on my Sunbeam S7 which is my ride to work machine. The old ones last for years before they need to be replaced.
 

vibrac

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Yes I think we come back to the composition of modern black rubber components they seem to have so much carbon in them the trials seats seem to crack in no time and black soot seems to run out of components mounted on bodywork when washed. Is there no standard marking system?
 

Bill Thomas

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Have you tried a Spares Company one ?,
I have had a few bad ones from other shops, Some have closed ends !.
But just found one with an open end with a nice recess, Fits like glove, For use with folding Kickstart,
I think it must have come from Our Company ?.
Cheers Bill.
 

peter holmes

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I haven't had to much to complain about, the logos sometime wear off quicker than I would like, but I think they are now manufactured by cottage industries, as are our seat foams, I am sure good rubber can still be sourced, I would imagine that the big four Japanese manufacturers do not have this problem with ancillary rubber products, likewise Harley, Ducati, Guzzi etc. but these manufacturers will not be using small volume suppliers, perhaps we should be grateful that we can still get something, even if it is not as good as it used to be.
 

b'knighted

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On my Comets I seem to have cured the rubber working its way off when wet and the boot slipping off the rubber problems by using the rubber supplied for twin kickstarts.
I cut off one of the end tapers and put the rubber on, cut end first. The tapered out end of the rubber sits inboard of the mushroom head of the hinged footpiece.
As I understand it ( or at least think I do) all Comets left the factory with a fixed footpiece without rubber. I find these uncomfortable to ride with and risky to start the bike with as the peg isn’t long enough to hook outside my boot which slides off the mushroom. With the rubber tapering up towards the outer end there is little tendency for my foot to slip and with the top folded forward it doesn’t interfere with where my calf wants to be while riding.
It may not be standard but it is a definite improvement.
Vibrac's kickstart, swinging in from a bottom pivot, may be even better.
 

Bill Thomas

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It's a shame the Club Spares don't have better photos,
Some Web Sites show 3 different views, And blown up shots,
Which gives you a better idea of what you are buying.
Cheers Bill.
 

Hugo Myatt

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On my Comets I seem to have cured the rubber working its way off when wet and the boot slipping off the rubber problems by using the rubber supplied for twin kickstarts.
I cut off one of the end tapers and put the rubber on, cut end first. The tapered out end of the rubber sits inboard of the mushroom head of the hinged footpiece.
As I understand it ( or at least think I do) all Comets left the factory with a fixed footpiece without rubber. I find these uncomfortable to ride with and risky to start the bike with as the peg isn’t long enough to hook outside my boot which slides off the mushroom. With the rubber tapering up towards the outer end there is little tendency for my foot to slip and with the top folded forward it doesn’t interfere with where my calf wants to be while riding.
It may not be standard but it is a definite improvement.
Vibrac's kickstart, swinging in from a bottom pivot, may be even better.
Like yourself I have always used a cut down 'twin' rubber on the Comet, positioned as you say. However on all the four Comets I have owned over more than fifty years they all have had folding kickstarts. I have always believed that was how they were originally supplied but without any rubber. The fixed footpiece kickstart is a Series A item.
 

macvette

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An old trick with rubbers is to coat them generously with petroleum jelly, let it soak in as long as you can, a day or so then rub off the excess and buff up. Dont do this on tyres! I suspect that most retro rubbers are mainly synthetic rubber.
 

vin998

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Like yourself I have always used a cut down 'twin' rubber on the Comet, positioned as you say. However on all the four Comets I have owned over more than fifty years they all have had folding kickstarts. I have always believed that was how they were originally supplied but without any rubber. The fixed footpiece kickstart is a Series A item.
I believe series A singles sometimes had fixed kickstarts and sometimes the folding type and it all depended on what Burman supplied on the day. I have seen some very old photos probably taken pre war of series A singles with folding kickstarts.
 

vibrac

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An old trick with rubbers is to coat them generously with petroleum jelly, let it soak in as long as you can, a day or so then rub off the excess and buff up. Dont do this on tyres! I suspect that most retro rubbers are mainly synthetic rubber.
You can get some tyre softner at places like Santa Pod that the straight liners use on their tyres
I tapped the end of the twin kick start foot piece and put a large washer and screw in to help secure the rubber
 

peter holmes

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Tim, I am confused, surely the twin kick start foot piece already has a thread tapped in the end of it, and is fitted with a screw and washer as standard, I guess you could use a larger diameter washer than standard.
 

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