No agenda, passenger. The whole thing seems even deeper than I thought when I first commented, but that's all it was - a comment. The discussion does seem to be rather more sensitive than I thought, but I am certainly not leading it. Furthermore, I am in no way acquainted with any of the players, although one of them has my sympathy. The discussion was opened by Martyn, and may be appropriate for him to either comment on the progress of the matter that was the subject of his general request, or to put the whole request to bed (i.e. close it).
As far as my being a non-member is concerned, for what it's worth I have in the past been a member of the VOC, and a Vincent owner to boot, long before the club had a website.