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G: Gearbox Folding Comet Kickstart Lever


peter holmes

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I currently have fitted to my C/D Comet what I believe to be a genuine Burman folding kickstart lever, I have no idea whether these were fitted originally, but I believe they were not, the only problem that I experience is that when the bike is being ridden the lever always falls out to the projecting position, it would be good if I could fit a spring retaining system, either a leaf spring as the twin kickstart or a ball bearing and coil bit like the friction damper knobs and the steering damper knob, I have looked at the Indian Spares ones, but find the cost a bit eye watering, has anyone come across this problem and successfully cured it.
 

erik

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the spring has not enough Tension.you should dismount the outer cover and give the kickstart Lever one more turn so that the spring is stronger.it is a very Long spring and this should be no Problem.and the costs are nothing.regards erik
 

peter holmes

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Erik, I do not think that I have made myself clear, the problem that I have is the Kickstart foot piece rotates 90 degrees from the kickstart lever, when not in use I want the foot piece to fold in parallel with the bike and to stay in that position, not to fold itself outwards at 90 degrees to the bike.
 

Bill Thomas

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Peter, I drilled a small hole and fitted a spring and ball and made a small dent in the lever.
On another I just used a washer, So that it just nipped, And a bit of Loctite on the nut,
The second one I liked more. Cheers Bill.
 

vibrac

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Nipping with a washer is the easy way its what I did before I got this one
26567
 

MartynG

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No need for any of those bodges. The fix (actually the correct assembly) as per the original is a sturdy flat washers with the correct wave washer between them. I purchased my wave washer from the Spares Co. a while back but any spring maker should be able to supply. Works a dream with my Burman kickstarter - oh the only 'modern' item is a nyloc nut that ensures the arrangement holds in place.

The wave washer goes UNDER the pivoting foot piece, the flat washer and the nyloc on top. See photos
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peter holmes

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Thanks for the tip Martyn, just have to wait for the Club to restock the wave washer or ferret around other suppliers.
 

chankly bore

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Some lawnmowers with 3/8" diameter blade bolts use wave washers as an anti-rattle stratagem. They are usually too large on the o.d., but a little gentle grinding while dipping in water to preserve temper will furnish you an adequate substitute. Cheap, too!
 
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oexing

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Did you look into Ebay ? There are lots of them, stainless or not. Whenever I need anything I routinely look into Ebay, lazy bugger. But maximum choice there.

Vic

link to wave washers :
Wave washers
 

erik

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I think what Bill describes is the most aesthetic Arrangement.this System is used on my Fastback as well.works good since decades.on my comet i have the mike breeding kickstart from new mexico.works excellent, Looks excellent and costs excellent.regards Erik
 

Bill Thomas

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Not keen on nyloc. This is a Vincent. Stainless dome or in my case bolt. Cheers Bill.
 

MartynG

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Not keen on nyloc. This is a Vincent. Stainless dome or in my case bolt. Cheers Bill.
Whatever turns your wheels. the good thing about nylock when used with a wave washer is you can apply a level of torque and know it will stay that way. A case of function over form
 

MartynG

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Some lawnmowers with 3/8" diameter blade bolts use wave washers as an anti-rattle stratagem. They are usually too large on the o.d., but a little gentle grinding while dipping in water to preserve temper will furnish you an adequate substitute. Cheap, too!
Lawn mower blade washers do not work - they are way way to thin and cheap - look like they can do the job at first glance but then go on to really disappoint.

The correct item is part number PR-50-147X
 

Ian Savage

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The story so far, the original washer Burman fitted was a 'curved washer' 26582 but I couldn't find a supplier at the time, we tried a 'wave washer' 26583 but these were too weak and flattened out, so I withdrew them from sale.
As there seem now to be a huge pent up demand for these we currently have, at the VOSC Spares Co, the MD and two other directors working the specification and sourcing, we are looking forward to a massive influx of orders once we get them back on the shelf.
Ian S
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greg brillus

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I've used a thin fibre washer generally works fine, oh and a bit of loctite on the dome nut thread......... gets the job done.
 

MartynG

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The story so far, the original washer Burman fitted was a 'curved washer' View attachment 26582 but I couldn't find a supplier at the time, we tried a 'wave washer' View attachment 26583 but these were too weak and flattened out, so I withdrew them from sale.
As there seem now to be a huge pent up demand for these we currently have, at the VOSC Spares Co, the MD and two other directors working the specification and sourcing, we are looking forward to a massive influx of orders once we get them back on the shelf.
Ian S
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Well Ian,

I am very glad a 'bagged' a bunch of these from the Spares Co before you withdrew them. They work PERFECTLY - provided they are installed correctly - see my pics in my earlier post. Thats #6. I purchased a bunch from you but after many months and heaps of miles i I am still on the first one with no sign of need to replace

Martyn

washer 1.jpg
 

Ian Savage

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The story so far, the original washer Burman fitted was a 'curved washer' but I couldn't find a supplier at the time, we tried a 'wave washer' but these were too weak and flattened out, so I withdrew them from sale.
As there seem now to be a huge pent up demand for these we currently have, at the VOSC Spares Co, the MD and two other directors working the specification and sourcing, we are looking forward to a massive influx of orders once we get them back on the shelf.
Ian S
VOC Spares Co
Huge quantity on order, due in a few days, get your orders in now to avoid disappointment.
Ian
 

peter holmes

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The story so far, the original washer Burman fitted was a 'curved washer' View attachment 26582 but I couldn't find a supplier at the time, we tried a 'wave washer' View attachment 26583 but these were too weak and flattened out, so I withdrew them from sale.
As there seem now to be a huge pent up demand for these we currently have, at the VOSC Spares Co, the MD and two other directors working the specification and sourcing, we are looking forward to a massive influx of orders once we get them back on the shelf.
Ian S
VOC Spares Co
Not one to bitch and moan, I am very grateful for the Club Spares Company, it is a great resource, but I am also aware that Ian and all involved appreciate feedback, good or bad. The new wave washers are not correct out of the packet, they can be fettled and made to work, but to do that the OD has to be reduced either locally or the total circumference, I appreciate that the original imperial size in all probability is no longer available and that this is the best alternative. Cheers Peter
 

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