The Spares Company
Club Shop/Regalia
Parent Website
Contact Officials
Machine Registrar
Club Secretary
Membership Secretaries
MPH Editor and Forum Administrator.
Section Newsletters
Technical Databases
Photos
Home
What's new
Latest activity
Forums
New posts
What's new
New posts
Latest activity
Information
Bike Modifications
Machine Data Services
Manufacturers Manuals
Spare Parts Listings
Technical Diagrams
Whitakerpedia (Vincent Wiki)
The Club
MPH Material Archive
Flogger's Corner
Obituaries
VOC Sections
Local Sections
Local Section Newsletters
Miscellaneous
Club Assets
Club History
Club Rules
Machine Data Services
Meeting Documents
Miscellaneous
Essential Reading
Magazine/Newspaper Articles/Letters
Adverts and Sales Brochures
The Mighty Garage Videos
Bikes For Sale (Spares Company)
Log in
Register
What's new
New posts
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Home
Forums
Forums: Public Access
General Chat (Vincent Related)
Diesel Warning
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Magnetoman" data-source="post: 48126" data-attributes="member: 2806"><p>There are various ways of looking at this issue, some of which are a lot harder to estimate than others. However, many of the people reading this already have one of those modern vehicles that they use for many purposes, plus a Vincent. For these people the initial pollution produced in making that modern vehicle already exists whether or not it sits in the driveway or is used on a given day. So, for these people we can compare the <em>additional</em> pollution of using a Vincent vs. a modern vehicle when deciding which one to take on a 100 mile trip. In this comparison, the Vincent definitely comes out the loser. </p><p></p><p>For someone who only has a Vincent and who expects to ride it, say, 100,000 miles in its lifetime the more difficult calculation is comparing the total overall pollution of the 3000+ gallons of gas plus ~150 qts. of oil it will use, vs. scrapping it on day one and buying a modern vehicle to use for those 100,000 miles instead. Such calculations are difficult to make since they depend on assumptions of the mix of hydroelectric, solar, wind, nuclear, coal, and gas-fired electricity used in the mining and manufacturing, plus the amount of ethanol in the fuel (and the fossil fuel used in its production), plus how much of the initial energy is effectively recovered when the vehicle is scrapped at the end (vs. mining new raw materials).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Magnetoman, post: 48126, member: 2806"] There are various ways of looking at this issue, some of which are a lot harder to estimate than others. However, many of the people reading this already have one of those modern vehicles that they use for many purposes, plus a Vincent. For these people the initial pollution produced in making that modern vehicle already exists whether or not it sits in the driveway or is used on a given day. So, for these people we can compare the [I]additional[/I] pollution of using a Vincent vs. a modern vehicle when deciding which one to take on a 100 mile trip. In this comparison, the Vincent definitely comes out the loser. For someone who only has a Vincent and who expects to ride it, say, 100,000 miles in its lifetime the more difficult calculation is comparing the total overall pollution of the 3000+ gallons of gas plus ~150 qts. of oil it will use, vs. scrapping it on day one and buying a modern vehicle to use for those 100,000 miles instead. Such calculations are difficult to make since they depend on assumptions of the mix of hydroelectric, solar, wind, nuclear, coal, and gas-fired electricity used in the mining and manufacturing, plus the amount of ethanol in the fuel (and the fossil fuel used in its production), plus how much of the initial energy is effectively recovered when the vehicle is scrapped at the end (vs. mining new raw materials). [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
What was Mr Irving's Christian Name?
Post reply
Home
Forums
Forums: Public Access
General Chat (Vincent Related)
Diesel Warning
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
Accept
Learn more…
Top