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Comet 1951 - rough running


RobertWilliam

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Comet 1951 - rough running - Update

Hi,

I am a new member to the VOC located at Banbury near Oxford. I have acquired a Vincent Comet that I believe to be in good condition although it had not been started for 16 years. Still, what a beautiful motorcycle…

I have managed to service, point’s gap, spark plug and lead, bushes on magneto, oil, drain petrol tank and new taps, clean carburettor etc and can start the machine although, there is an occasional backfire through the carb. When I twist the throttle quite heavy the engine starts to die. I can keep the bike ticking over by lightly twisting the throttle but It cannot be ridden as it has no power when the throttle is opened.

I have look to adjust the timing and understand the theory of firing before TDC and have scoured the internet for a good guide for this work however I do not understand the practice of physically carrying out this work on the Vincent Comet.

Does anyone know of a manual or booklet that explains in pictorial and text format for someone that is not that mechanically minded?

Updated

All...Thanks for the comments on my timing problems.:)

I look forward to the day I a part of the Vincent Riders Club (VRC) not just the Owners Club (VOC), until then I am part of the Norton Riders Club….

Can you point me to the contact for the Oxford&Bucks section. And if your reading this, It’s a given at our house there is always Beer, Coffee and Bacon Sandwiches on offer

…..In fact I am at the point where I am looking for someone who can do this on a commercial basis if you know of anyone:(…..Desperate to get it on the road.

Cheers, Robert.
 
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Books.

Hi Robert,
To get you started you should buy the Riders Handbook, Workshop Instructions and Vincent motor cycles by Paul Richardson.
And have a look at the ATD to see if it is working.

Russ
 

Pete Appleton

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Books

Can you recomend a supplier of these publications by any chance ?
 

nkt267

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Find your local section and Cajole/threaten/bribe(delete as neccessary)beer or coffee often works.The Vincent family are a really helpful lot if you can't sort things out on your own,that vinparts bloke is one of them even if he did sell his only decent bike(Comet);)
 

petermb998

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You can also get the info from the spares company and if you are a member
you would be able to get some discount on some parts.
support the clubs spares company.
peter
 
Thanks.

Thank you for the kind words John, I do try to help other Vincent owners even if it means staying up till midnight sending emails, the job in my book does not stop at 5pm. And as for 10% off if you are a member, don't get me going on that one:confused: ALL Vincent owners are the same in my book as long as they "ride them and don't hide them", remember that one you Oxford & Bucks lot?
And as for selling my Comet, don't remind me. The good news is that I am building another one. 90mm with three wheels:D All I need is for the Appleton's workshop to sort out the diff for me.

Russ
 

Debbie Kemp

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Comet-trike600 sees Gold at the end of the rainbow

You're building a Comet with three wheels, Russell? I wonder who talked you into that :rolleyes:

Just don't forget that it would make a REALLY nice Christmas present for somebody (hint, hint):D Obviously it would need to be painted pink with silver glitter and it would need pink leather tassles hanging from the handlebars...........:D
 

Pete Appleton

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Help from the spares company ?

You can also get the info from the spares company and if you are a member
you would be able to get some discount on some parts.
support the clubs spares company.
peter
I am pleased to hear that help and advice is available from the spares company. Whenever I have tried I got the impression that I was wasting their time. (even when enquiring about the parts for building a new twin engine. I gave up and bought them from the welsh bloke).
Perhaps the spares company will join the forum to offer advice and prove me wrong.

Pete
 

BlackLightning998

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The things I like about Vinparts.....

Unfortunately I still have to work for a living, and long hours at that (pause for sympathy).

This means my Vincenteering is evenings and weekends.

I like a lot about VinParts - but especially the fact that Russ offered me the chance to ring him in the evening for a chat and advice, and we chat by email late into the evening, and then when I needed something special he turned it up on the lathe for me overnight, charged me no extra and posted it the very next morning to get me on the road. When I have a special problem I email him a picture and get advice by return - I'm a fan.

I've bought stuff from the Spares Company too, no problems, arrived promptly, wrong stuff was exchanged no issue so it's not that there are any problems - just that Russ and VinParts suits me, that's all. As I'm the customer - I can choose - great isn't it.

All thing being equal I like the personal service and so on balance VinParts gets my vote from my own experiences. I haven't got around to comparing the products from one to another (others have told me there can be differences), or the prices either for that matter.

Special bits like Tyres and Chains I buy elsewhere - and hope that neither VinParts or the Spares Company are offended - because the specialists in that field can do just so much better on price.

So, you takes your money and makes your choice - I just think it is fabulous there are so many to choose from - when I was last involved in Vincents in the 1970's it was the Jolly Thresher Garage or nothing.

Stuart
 

daveinnola

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not started for 16 years lol i would not worry till you put a couple of tank full,s of unleaded through it , by that time it would be the least of your worrys , but if i was to trouble shoot having not trouble shot a one liter enginge with a amal carb i would say its a shrivelled gasket on the accelerator pump but i cant remember if a amals got one but i would get a new gasket set and floats and carry a co2 can forawhile hot crotch is nice for the first thirty seconds on a cold night :eek:
 

alscomet

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rough running comet

In the search bar type in "comet with unmarked timing pinions" and have a look at the replys I had lots of information before i found my camwheel loose on its shaft, The main point is to find tdc properly, attach a timing disc and DTI and find out how the engine is timed before you remove anything at least this may direct you to the problem before you go too far.It may not be the timing at all and all the simple things need to be right first. alan
 

daveinnola

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i would go back to i bought it and the fellar told me its fine but aint been run in sixteen years plug gap,varnish running through the system plug wire and other wires not holding ohms theres a ton of stuff before i bought a dial indercator and :cool:
 

daveinnola

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half of my message was lost the cheapest tool is run it in the dark , those little blue light,s :eek: that you might see , will eat your lunch they have beat me more than i care to say lol dave
 

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