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Black Shadow Carbs

piggywig

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For quite some time I have been inquiring from all the suppliers of Vincent parts as to the likelihood of 289 11/8"carbs. being available. Recently Burlen Fuel Sytems? emailed details of the proposed manufacture of these carbs and advised they would only be available from the V.O.C. Spares Co.
My emails to the Spares Co. requesting details have gone unanswered, perhaps David & Bill have taken early retirement? (Other unrelated emails to Vin-parts are usually answered by next day!)
Does anyone have up to date info. regarding supplies? As these have not been on offer for many years I imagine there will be good demand and a lengthy queue. I would be interested to hear from other seekers.
Col.
 

Graham Smith

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Hi Colin

I spoke with David at the VOC Spares Company Ltd today, and he told me that they try to reply to all emails the very same day they're received. In fact, when I spoke to him, Bill had just finished replying to all the emails that had been received overnight.

He's searched back through his records and can't find anything from you relating to carburettors, so there's obviously a problem somewhere. You may want to give him a buzz?

Regarding the new carburettors: The 289s are virtually finished, but they've run into a minor problem on the 229s, which should be finished shortly, and they provisionally hope to have both products available for sale at the end of March.

If you have made your interest known to Dave/Bill, they will be contacting you shortly for a deposit - so get your cheque books out!
 
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Graham Smith

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If this is true, David Meadowcroft would be interested to know this, as the VOC Spares Company Ltd have a written contract stating that they are the sole supplier of 289s and 229s.
 
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vapide

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I am hoping that VOC Spares will make bodies available as replacement parts. It would make a good alternative to resleeving, and still be considerably cheaper than buying a whole new carburettor just to tighten up the slide.
 

Robert Watson

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One of the problems with tese carbs is that not only do they get loose slide/body but also get loose slide/jet block. They best way to restore these is to make new oversize jet blocks!

Robert
 
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Flatout

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I am hoping that VOC Spares will make bodies available as replacement parts. It would make a good alternative to resleeving, and still be considerably cheaper than buying a whole new carburettor just to tighten up the slide.

I've got John Coates resleeving a carb for me 229/1DV. I'm a rookie with this Vincent stuff but at £55 I would say it's bargain basement. Surely a new body will cost at least double as I was told that they are going to be around £400 complete. Ouch!
 

Vinthou

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Flatout, thank you. I know there was someone in the U.K. about 20 years ago who would sleeve the carb body. Nowadays it seems that sleeving the slide is the preferred practice. I always thought the former might be the better way to go since it left open the option to change slides. I have a worn out 229 that needs some tlc, so any advice is most welcome.
 
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Flatout

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Flatout, thank you. I know there was someone in the U.K. about 20 years ago who would sleeve the carb body. Nowadays it seems that sleeving the slide is the preferred practice. I always thought the former might be the better way to go since it left open the option to change slides. I have a worn out 229 that needs some tlc, so any advice is most welcome.

Vinthou,
I went to John Coates as I said previously. I had two PM's from members telling me that the 'Maughans' recommended him to them. If they recommend John, he must be good. A very helpful person on the phone and I was just reading last months Classic Bike where there's a Black Shadow that was entered into the CBOTY and John Coates name was mentioned for engine rebuilding.
There seems to be quite a few people offering this service but I am glad that I have given mine to John as he knows Vincents through and through.
 

piggywig

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Black Shadow Carbs.

Finally got the good word from Bill, as follows:-
We hope to have them available by the end of March.
The price will be £375 each.
If you wish to be added to the list please let us know the quantity and type you require.

Regards,

Bill.
 

Vic Youel

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I placed a very good original 229 front carb on Ebay a couple of weeks ago for a colleague in the Aldershot section. It had a re-sleeved body and was fully refurbished by Steve Wheeler. The highest bid was £260 and it did not reach reserve.

It has gone back on the shelf.

Incidentally Burlen and Amal (Surrey Cycles) have advised me that they expect to be able to supply clip on 289 carbs for around £250 in the next couple of months or so.


Cheers

Vic
 
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Flatout

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Carb prices

I placed a very good original 229 front carb on Ebay a couple of weeks ago for a colleague in the Aldershot section. It had a re-sleeved body and was fully refurbished by Steve Wheeler. The highest bid was £260 and it did not reach reserve.

It has gone back on the shelf.

Incidentally Burlen and Amal (Surrey Cycles) have advised me that they expect to be able to supply clip on 289 carbs for around £250 in the next couple of months or so.


Cheers

Vic

Seems a hell of a price difference between Surrey Cycles and the VOCSC?
From what I've learn't in the last month it really does pay to shop around when buying parts for Vincents.
 

Robert Watson

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You should check that these are clip fit 289 with 1 1/8 bores. As per the previous thread they are advertising clip fit 276 carbs, not the same thing. If they are the same thing then somebody has either broken an agreement or someone else is making them. We would like confirmation!

Robert
 
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Flatout

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Burlen.

You should check that these are clip fit 289 with 1 1/8 bores. As per the previous thread they are advertising clip fit 276 carbs, not the same thing. If they are the same thing then somebody has either broken an agreement or someone else is making them. We would like confirmation!

Robert

I gave Burlen a call earlier on today as I needed a new long arm float chamber for my refurbished 229 Comet Carb. When I asked about the 229 / 289 1-1/8 clip on carbs the salesman I spoke to said that they had an agreement with the Vincent Spares Company to supply them only. I didn't get all details from him but the just of it that some money has been invested so the Spares Company deserve to have exclusive right.
 

Tom Gaynor

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Sleeving carbs

Kevin Trail at Alverstoke Restorations did both my carbs within a week, for a very moderate price, about £70 the pair. He bores the body and sleeves the slide. Either the sleeve blocks were OK or I bought new ones, I can't remember now. 02392 580 708 after 1630 will find him. He's at Gosport.
I also bought new jets and needles from Surrey Cycles and was disappointed to find the needles were unplated brass. Bike goes OK though.
 

BlackLightning998

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Does he refinish them too?

Hi Tom,

I've got a pair of Rapide carbs for refurbishing, I know that John Coates does the re-bore and sleeve job (does them for Maughans too), as does Steve Wheeler as I've seen one of his which was refinished too. Does Kevin refinish the carb and float chamber - if so what is the job like, originally they were not painted I suspect and I'm trying to track down someone who will refinish them like they were originally?

Cheers

Stuart
 

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