H: Hubs, Wheels and Tyres Bert Weisz brake mod.

[tmax555]

Can anyone point me to where I can find details of the 'floating shoe' modification to the front brake.
I don't have a copy of the MPH where it was first published. Many thanks.

 

[Bill Thomas]

https://www.vincentownersclub.co.uk/resources/floating-brake-shoes.660/

If you scroll down the Forum page, Bottom left hand corner,
Whitakerpedia , All sorts there, Cheers Bill.

 

[tmax555]

Great Bill, thanks for your prompt response. Cheers Tony

 

[vibrac]

I do wonder what is going on here. Is it that the floating movement at the fixed end is overcoming the reported* small error in the original positioning of the cam /anchor?
* I cant find the reference on here but I know its here.

 

[Bill Thomas]

Stu told us MPH 821, Or MPH 632.

 

[Graham Smith]

MPH 824…

 

[Graham Smith]

MPH 632…

 

[vibrac]

Stu told us MPH 821, Or MPH 632.

No it was a posting by Clever Trevor (I think) about how the position of the holes in the brakeplates were designed a few milimeters out from where they should be I thouught this might have something top do with the efficiency of floating the fixed end

 

[vibrac]

This link isnt the one I looked for but it certainly discusses the BW mod a bit further (and a search will find many more)I do hope we dont loose this material on the forum and that people do use the search box or we shall be forever recycling questions that have been asked before angain and again and.....

Brakes

Have just made up the Bert Weitz mod on an already cut up brake plate and even with only one side modified it is a definite improvement. When you put the plate in with the two nuts slack and apply the brake it is surprising how far out the new pivots are compared to the old riveted ones, this...

www.vincentownersclub.co.uk

 

[tmax555]

Many thanks to all who have contributed to this thread.

I did try to search for it under 'Series C Brake Modification' as key words and 'Bert Weisz' as the author and the response I got was he wasn't a member??

Maybe I wasn't using the the search facility correctly but tried several variations of above.

 

[bmetcalf]

Bert passed away a few years ago. Not only did he have a nice machine shop at home, he was a third shift maintenance machinist at the Windsor Ford works, so very unsupervised for Vincent projects!

In one of the referenced threads, I gave http://www.voc.uk.com/net/docs/2.1/2.1-499-16.pdf as a link. It doesn't work now and is a different format to what is used now in the Whitakerpedia. I wonder what it used to show?

 

[Bill Thomas]

I just put His name in search, Nothing else, Pressed search.
Cheers Bill.

 

[vibrac]

'Pivot' and Clev trev as author also works well

 

[Keith Martin]

Interesting seat by Bert Weisz.

 

[stu spalding]

Bert Weisz was also responsible for angling the propstands down ten degrees. Another worthwhile mod. Cheers, Stu.

 

[TouringComet]

I believe the Vincent Bert frequently rode to North American rallies, with telescopic front forks, was a Series B Shadow.