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BBC Nudge Unit

vibrac

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Today I heard a term not used for months and months then I remembered we are in a minor heat wave so today the BBC says "Global Warming" any normal UK weather day they call it "Climate Change"
I am old enough to remember when the BBC gave out the unvarnished news "Here is the news, and this is Alvar Lidell reading it".
 

timetraveller

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The question is 'do you think that we do not have global warming'? If not then explain the rise in atmospheric carbon dioxide. If you want to worry about 'nudge' then note now often we have been told how much better for the planet it would be if we gave up eating meat and instead resorted to eating insects. This has been insidiously fed into the media over, at least, the last four years. I am not in any way looking down upon those cultures which do have to eat insects to get protein but which would you prefer?
 

vibrac

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Its not if I believe Global warming its the way the media twist news and adverts I would love to know the mechanism that makes sure only men are now shown mopping floors, push bikes appear in every advert cars (mostly electric) must never show anything pertaining to speed or power. We never see a car at speed but happily show someone gyrating to onboard stereo while driving. and the other social engineering nudges that are obvious.
 

Peter Holmes

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It would be very hard to argue that the planet we live on would not be a whole lot better if there were less or preferably no pollution, how we ever achieve that is hard to fathom, but it is the hypocrisy that makes me laugh, there was a good example last week at the G7 with all the green lobby protesters blocking up the harbour on their plastic paddle boards and in their plastic canoes, I doubt they could even comprehend the irony of their actions.
 
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vibrac

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Or making electric cars when petrol can be made out of sunlight and the very CO2 they are worried about
 

vibrac

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Or building the HS2 while people want to work from home and lorries will drive in computerised convoys...
 

timetraveller

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It got warmer. There have been lots of Ice Ages. it is thought by many that the cause is the Milankovitch Cycles.
What Are the 3 Milankovitch Cycles?

  1. Orbital eccentricity. Earth revolves around the sun in a roughly circular orbit. But roughly every 100,000 years, its orbit becomes more eccentric.
  2. Obliquity variation. The next piece of the puzzle is obliquity. Right now, Earth’s obliquity is 23.5°. ...
  3. Axial precession. Axial precession is the movement of the rotational axis of Earth. ...
There is a lot of reading to do if you want to know more.
 

Martyn Goodwin

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It would be very hard to argue that the planet we live on would not be a whole lot better if there were less or preferably no pollution, how we ever achieve that is hard to fathom, but it is the hypocrisy that makes me laugh, there was a good example last week at the G7 with all the green lobby protesters blocking up the harbour on their plastic paddle boards and in their plastic canoes, I doubt they could even comprehend the irony of their actions.
For ages most have ignored the elephant (or should that be mammoth) in the room. Our planet is suffering from a plague of people.

All the focus so far has been on the management of supply, its time to start thinking about management of demand.
 

Robert Watson

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L to R Nigel Spaxman C Rapide (mostly)
Robert Watson on the Woolly mammoth
Jim Bush on an early B engine with an assortment of Cycle parts
Pretty much first ride of the year with close to a quick 1000 miles.

In the back ground hiding in the boat shed is the stalwart Series D man, the shy Tony Cording on his 750 Commando, and the picture taken by MSVH who managed to almost keep up on a very young Triumph Thruxton R.

Good few days indeed.
 

vibrac

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It also the acronym for Bedford Borough Council whose Mayor memorably said in my presence
"Potholes are natures little sleeping policemen"
 

mercurycrest

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For ages most have ignored the elephant (or should that be mammoth) in the room. Our planet is suffering from a plague of people.

All the focus so far has been on the management of supply, its time to start thinking about management of demand.
Right on the mark Martyn! It's the Malthusian Theory, food production is linear while human population increases exponentially.
 

vibrac

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The answer to our problems is technology the problem is those in charge no nothing about technology and those who complain the most hate technology and want to see us back in the middle ages eating carrots

Engineer the climate, mine the asteroids, settle the planets...
 

timetraveller

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Somewhere between Martyn's post #11 and Vibrac's post #19 lies a possible solution. Technology can be wonderful and most of us would not be here without it. Certainly not communicating via this medium. However, any economic model which requires a continuously increasing numbers of producers and consumers cannot have a long term future. If every couple had three children, all of whom survived, then one does not have to be a mathematician to realise that every generation results in 50% more people. One could take the Chinese model and restrict couples to only one or two children which many find unacceptable but there is another way which I never see discussed. If people breed when they are twenty years old then we have a generation of 20, 40, 60 and 80 year olds. That is four and a bit generations at any one time. However, if people bred at 35 then we have 35, 70 and some remnants, that is two and a half generations. Within one or two generations then we have cut the population by about 25%. No restrictions on number of children or other draconian rules. The exact age of between 20 and 35 could be discussed but the principle is clear enough. If one looks at the overcrowded cities, the pollution, the mess left behind when people go to their local park and the amount of plastic waste that ends up in the sea and eventually gets into our food chain it is clear that something needs to be done but whether human beings are capable of the improvement needed is doubtful. Here endeth the rant.
 
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