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Bar End Indicators


MartynG

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Bill Cannon

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It's not Vincent but might be of interest to someone building a special. The 2019 model BMW S1000RR has no rear light at all it's function is integrated into the multicolour LED indicator stalks, so in normal riding both show red, intensity increases when braking, I don't yet know what happens when you brake and indicate at the same time! I'll have to make a point of looking.
Cheers Bill
 

vibrac

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Thankfully not having the slightest idea of metric distances over 90mm (wonder why that limit is in my consciousness;)) till I measure them, I have just checked my alphabet twin and it seems that those indicators as shown in post #15 are 280mm front and 230mm rear spacing so it seems you would have to go some and have a strange sense of humor to mount at less than the prescribed widths. especially as the tester is allowed to judge by eye.
 

peter holmes

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I cannot see to many applications when you would install less than 180mm, where had you mounted them, on the front I would always favour the headlamp mounting bolts, albeit adapted a little, I think even 6 1/2 inch headlamp mounted indicators would just about conform to required distance.
Relates to #15
 

Glenliman

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Really nice unit, where do I put the mirror?
I used these on the Glenli as they are bright fore and aft, are at the widest point on the motorcycle and they allow fitment of bar end mirrors. They are made by Oberon.
When not acting as turn indicators they run at a steady lower intensity as running lights.
The front LED indicators and the rear wrap-around multi function LED are all hooked up to a self cancelling module.
For the rear light, ignition on gives a low intensity running light, same as at the front indicators.
Brake on gives steady higher intensity. Flasher on flashes one half of the strip at high intensity. If the brake is on and the flasher is on then the non flashing half is at steady high intensity.
Glen

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ernie

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IMHO indicators on a motorcycle which are not self cancelling and do not comply with C & U regs are dangerous.
 

ClassicBiker

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Riding in traffic these days without any kind of turn signal, self cancelling or not, is suicidal at best. I've gone to make a left at an intersection, had my signal on as I approached, slowed to make a turn and as I leaned into the turn the Jack**s behind me came around on my left.
Steven
 

vibrac

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Yes I find getting the Acetylene to flicker at the prescribed rate on my belt drive Douglas is difficult but thats1925 technology for you
and the mag on my OHC Velocette has enough trouble just lighting the bonfire.
I am afraid the only solution is to position yourself well on the road, and avoid towns
 

MartynG

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IMHO indicators on a motorcycle which are not self cancelling and do not comply with C & U regs are dangerous.
hyper-lite LED indicators - small but ultra bright - and they do not cost the earth

 

stu spalding

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Having been knocked off my bike by an idiot who failed to notice a 60 watt H4 main beam I can only assume that there are car drivers out there who will not be alerted by any kind of indicator. The only thing to do is treat all car drivers as blind morons, even then you'll get caught out. Cheers, Stu.
 

ClassicBiker

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Having been knocked off my bike by an idiot who failed to notice a 60 watt H4 main beam I can only assume that there are car drivers out there who will not be alerted by any kind of indicator. The only thing to do is treat all car drivers as blind morons, even then you'll get caught out. Cheers, Stu.
Just because I'm paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get me. I always assume that every car driver is intent on killing me. Like fighter pilots who paint the number of kills on the nose of their aircraft, I imagine that the majority of car drivers want to do the same. I imagine they meet secretly to argue the exchange rate of pedestrian vs bicyclist vs what ever so that they can claim the status of "Ace".
Steven
 

oexing

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No matter what you put on the bike, it will not help much to warn blind car drivers. I would not waste any time on adding flash lights when they are not required. The only time these might be useful is at night when a hand turn signal cannot be seen. But then I don´t drive at night any more when I can help it.

Vic
 

Glenliman

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Can't agree.
Just imagine disabling the turn indicators on your car or truck and then taking it out in traffic.
It would be unthinkable and illegal here.
But I should be OK on a motorcycle?

Its just safer for you if you can let other motorists know your intentions. Not all of them are idiots on cellphones. Most do want to know if you are about to turn left or right, stop etc. It's tough for them when you can't tell them what's about to happen because one hand is busy doing throttle or brake, the other clutch.



Glen
 
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ClassicBiker

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While I think all car drivers are out to bring about my early and untimely demise, I am not about to give them any help or excuses. I believe most motorists on the road these days to be entirely ignorant of hand signals. I also believe they have the attention span of gnats with ADHD. There for I have fitted flashing turn indicators to all my bikes that didn't come with them originally. The last thing I want is when one of these individuals hits me is for him to get off of some charge because he momentarily looked away when I gave a hand signal to indicate my turn. Prior to commencing my turn I indicate my intention and I don't turn it off until I have completed it.
Steven
 

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