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39th Carole Nash Bristol Classic Motorcycle Show 2019


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vibrac

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Hells teeth never did a Grey Flash engine come with such a shine and to think of the trouble I went to keep mine a nice dull patina:eek:, gearbox has me guessing looks like it actually races I wonder where?..
That delayed Show was a big disappointment a lot of money to get in not a lot of stalls lots of sweets, and other non motorcycle rubbish good club presence but I wont go again..
 

Jez Nemeth

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Pity to hear that -missed it due to an op, but enjoyed it the previous year. Now that Flash, practical performance upgrades, detailed mods and bespoke parts, labour of love. Can't place the gearbox though, doesn't look either Albion or Burman from this angle -and be curious about Carb choice?..likely because I'm there with my Comet build...10TT or Modern Amal...hmmm.
 

timetraveller

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That might be Mike Hawthorne's bike. If it is then it has broken his class track record for two different tracks in Belgium, revs up to 8,000 and carries an inch and a half GP. If it is his bike then I have never seen so many holes drilled in engine internals in any other bike. Spectacular.
 

A_HRD

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I just blew-up the photo for a better look-see. It has a concentric eccentric and a huge black front damper.
Peter B
 

vibrac

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Yes but what gearbox?
And it does seem also that if it has a GP carb that the continentals are a lot more lenient that the UK in their interpretation of what a 1949 racing motorcycle was fitted with
 

Bill Thomas

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Where have you been ??, We have seen so much about it and videos of him racing, The gearbox is Triumph.
Cheers Bill.
 

davidd

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Michael is very fast. I don't think the bike is classed. It is a big bore, so it is difficult to compare to other bikes. The work is great.

I think Max called off the Bonneville attempt for 2018. I think he is still finishing the bike.

Instead of lots of little holes Mike put one big one in the RFM pivot! 8" rear brake, also.

David
 

Jez Nemeth

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Been some advancements in approaches to tuning over the last 70 years, I'm curious -not that I want another race tuned bike on the road...that '81 factory Yoshi Kat 11 I turned up with at the Severn rally last year was a handful. But a few discreet practical mods wouldn't be out of place, racing advancement knowledge trickle-down and all that... One of the links Bill indicated to...
https://www.vincentownersclub.co.uk/threads/mike-hawthorne-gedinne-2017.9173/
 

timetraveller

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At the end, after the camera mount shifted, you can see the action of the forks with the JE steering head mod and the different springs and damper.
 

vibrac

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Of course with UK vintage racing (I am talking BHR -VMCC) its not only original available carbs and gearbox its also 4 gears only. The trouble is that maybe perhaps the correct ruling but the number of people ready to race what have become rare historical recreations is low so you all get bundled into a single race with more modern machines where the race commentary only concentrates on the leaders and with racing numbers that give spectators no clue as to the various classes involved. At the end points are awarded in classes but that only becomes evident at the end of the season and is affected by attendance and results in a few moments at the annual dinner where prize giving extends to hours.
In a way CRMC, FIM Vintage and Landsdown series may be more enjoyable yes your machine may be 10 or twenty years out of date to the other compeditors and not an accurate representation of the original but in its updated form it does allow a race with some feedback I guess that was the calculation Mike made.
 

timetraveller

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I don't know the rules that Mike races to in Belgium regarding carbs etc. but I do know that he has to use a friction steering damper, rather than a hydraulic one, which seems pretty silly to me as it is a safety item.
 

BigEd

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I've closed this, "39 Carole Nash Bristol Classic 2019" thread as it has become a racing thread. If someone wants to start a new thread about the racing content I'll move the relevant post from this thread to the new one. Alternatively, if David doesn't mind I'll just change the thread title to include Flash/Comet racer.
 
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