Quite right Len, I wouldn't have been riding one all these years if they'd been rubbish, but, as you say, they did have some shortcomings. I'd like to know who came up with a tail light unit where the bulb holder was insulated and the bulb terminals switched to earth, and the guy who designed? the brake light switch must have had an awful grudge against MZ. On the other hand, the helically cut primary drive gears and the clutch throwout would frighten japanese manufacturers silly. Cheers, Stu.