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1951 Comet - No Reserve


vin998

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The advert description needs some work. The quoted frame number in the advert looks nothing like the actual frame number shown in one of the photos.
 

peter holmes

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Although I cannot see any evidence of it I would assume that one of the levers is for a manual advance and retard.
 

vibrac

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Yes it is, you can see the a/R cable tracking forward and up the fork spring leg. should be long enough or might retard on tigh LH turns :rolleyes:
 

ClassicBiker

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The advert description needs some work. The quoted frame number in the advert looks nothing like the actual frame number shown in one of the photos.
Vin998,
I looked at the vehicle registration document in the photo and did the math, the engine and frame are 1900 different and thought, "that's good". Then I saw your comment and looked at the photos closer. If I were to bid on it, I would want to see the Kansas title. Googling an image for a Kansas title, it is exactly like a Michigan title, which quote a vehicle identification number, which is the frame number only. I would want those to match. He doesn't have a valid Kansas plate of any description on it. The vehicle registration document in the photo is a U.K. one not a Kansas title. Which leads me to question whether he has a title at all. Looking at the Kansas DMV website, if the vehicle doesn't have a Kansas title to begin with it must have a VIN verification done. I suspect he bought it with out verifying the U.K. registration documents and the UFM number match. Before I bought and imported my Comet from a dealer in Cornwall, I asked for a photo of the UFM and the registration document, which he supplied. When I registered mine I had to have the local police come out and verify that the numbers on the UFM and the import and export documents and on the title application all matched. Only then would they let me apply for a title in my name. Further down the seller says he has only just noticed that the UFM and V5 don't match and when he registered the inspector used the engine number.
The seller also says the RFM doesn't have a number either. I would still want to see the title and have a bill of sale with both engine and frame numbers on it. I'd be wary.
Steven
 

vin998

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Also even though there is a UK registration document with the bike and the bike shows that registration on its rear plate there would be a problem if the bike ever returned to UK. This bike could not use the UK registration because the actual UFM frame number on the bike doesn't agree with the UK document.
In the UK the frame number is the main identifing number against the registration. Engine numbers can be changed on a V5 document but frame numbers cannot.

As for USA paperwork, titles etc I don't know how that works but I believe its different depending on the state.

Simon
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ClassicBiker

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Up until 1981 it varied from state to state, whether vehicles had titles and registrations or just registration slips. What number used also varied from state to state and whether engine numbers were involved or not. Starting with the 1981 model year vehicles had a specific 17 alpha-numeric code that identifies the manufacturer, country of origin of the drive train, year of manufacture, etc... That resulted in a bit more standardization and confusion when computers came into play here in the mid 90s. The state started sending out letters informing people that their VINs weren't correct and they needed to supply the state with the correct VINs. Turns out the people who wrote the software for registering vehicles didn't realize there was a difference in pre and post 1981 VINs and the program started to flag pre 1981 vehicles as having bogus VINs. I and my father got several of them a year for a couple of years.
Steven
 

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