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Misc: Everything Else 1951 Black Shadow Restoration

craig

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I was offered a Black Shadow project in 2013. I purchased the project and immediately started work on it.
Took the cylinders and heads to local Vincent machinist only 3 hrs away.
Crankshaft had been completed ,prior to my purchase, by a Canadian expert and also the tank was painted and done by "Bones".
Then, another Vincent project came up, Then a buddy stopped by and said" Go buy a BMW and lets travel the USA".
Then I got a wild hair and wanted to do the Trans America Trail (TAT). So I purchased a Husqvarna 701E and proceeded to farkle it out for the off road journey. So the Shadow was boxed up for another day.

All that behind, I am now focused on this Shadow project.
The pic above shows the big stuff with a thousand other pieces and projects in boxes.

My goal is a street friendly Black Shadow to ride on a semi daily basis, couple times a week.
 
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kerry

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So here is my finished look of a Shadow at this time. Hills stand, electric start, correct color scheme, alloy fenders, chrome steel wheels, stainless spokes, 5" speedo, etc.

This picture is not my Shadow, just a good example for what i want for my project.
My Shadow, Dec 21, 2020, is the first posted picture!
Probable add WP suspension.
Will add VSM brakes on front.
Maybe Amal concentrics and filters.
Maybe a Craven rack.
Miller sealed beam.
LED lighting out the rear.
Alton dynamo, Podtronics reg
Shorai battery stuffed in "EXIDE" plastic box
Any idea please which Shorai battery will fit inside the exide case and have enough power for the electric start, Regards Kerry.
 

craig

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Kerry, If you search for "Shorai" and put in my user name "craig", you will find thread on this.
Shorai battery in EXIDE case is easy, it is the cabling that requires a design plan.
 
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Simon Dinsdale

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Any idea please which Shorai battery will fit inside the exide case and have enough power for the electric start, Regards Kerry.
Kerry, I know of at least three people who have put Shorai LiFePO4 batteries inside the exide case and easily power the electric start. There was even space to mount the starter solenoid inside as well.

Simon
 

Martyn Goodwin

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Any idea please which Shorai battery will fit inside the exide case and have enough power for the electric start, Regards Kerry.
Link to the current SHORAI battery specs.


Measure the space available in your dummy case then pick the battery with the highest CCA that will fit. Remember that the battery can be installed in any position ie upright, on its end or on its back, All you need extra room for is the cables. With an electric start make sure the wiring from the battery to the starter motor is of sufficient gauge to handle the current without any significant power losses. This includes the earth wire,

Martyn
 

craig

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Trial fitted the spring boxes and Armstrong shock to the RFM.
Armstrong shock has TOP stenciled in white on the top rear.
Appears new, but probably 20 years old.

The black on the uppers is very wavy and runny. I think it is original 1951 paint.
It is so nice, I am going to leave as is.


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greg brillus

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I like the Armstrong shockers, they work well and don't leak........A lot of modern shocks for these bikes are too stiff.......totally unnecessary........Check the diameter of the spring wire on the rear springs, should be about 0.300" diameter wire, if they are 0.320" these are sidecar springs and too stiff........Whilst we're at it, the front springs.......If you are not too heavy a person, only use the outer springs, leave the inner ones out......or else the front end will be too stiff.........If you planned on riding this bike a bit, you should have given very serious thought to upgrading the steering column to one of the modified ones Norman Walker supplied (timetraveller on here).......I feel sorry for all the others who didn't bother.......Standard Girdraulics and "Tank slappers" are a common trait. Still folk out there suffering this problem......... Any club member who receives MPH should have been well advised by now.
 

Bill Thomas

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I don't think we should leave the inner springs out, We don't want the forks to come up too high,
On standard forks,
As I have always said, Fit an Hydraulic Steering Damper, For £50 and a few easy brackets,
Wish I had done it sooner !!!!. Cheers Bill.
 

craig

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Greg, Thanks for your help and tips. I purchased one new rear "solo" spring and compared to existing spring, they both looked same. I have a spring rater press and will check them. I did not have any lower covers, so these are both new. Also had to purchase a couple of spring "claws" Wow they seemed spendy.

I have a new in box set of Works Performance custom Vincent damper/spring units for this app. I prefer the twin shocks rather converting to a single.

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craig

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Looking on to the head lamp, harness and switches. I do have an original Miller sealed beam and harness from a USA Shadow.

I haven't shopped for years, who can supply the rubber covered black wire to build the main 4 wire harness? Not the sheath, just the wire.

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6 volt sealed beam bulb with no alignment tits. very specific Mazda bulb from1951
 
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greg brillus

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Some seller on the UK eBay sight that sells the modern equivalent to the rubber coated wire........sells a lot of stuff for restoring classic British cars........This has a silicone outer, only available in black and red (like a burgundy color)........You should use 5 wires if you can....... Battery +ve and -ve, charge output wire from regulator, Tail light, and horn push button wire.
 

vibrac

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Received my first (of two) Covid vaccine today, so now I am bulletproof.
You had to be older than a Series B Vincent to qualify.
It was a two part hypo draw from these two vials.
No free doughnuts and coffee after waiting 2 hrs in a car to be called in
Celebration on first injection is premature it takes 2 weeks to run it in (Bit like my first bike) I am into my 3rd week since jab I wont be entirely happy untill the second jab April, May? (in time for first Landsdowne event?)
 

craig

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Where is found an excellent replacement for the three cable harness from sealed beam head lamp to Miller dip switch?
This is very flexible harness about 0.270" in outer diameter with the three wire all appearing to be about 18awg.

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