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Misc: Everything Else 1951 Black Shadow Restoration

craig

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I was offered a Black Shadow project in 2013. I purchased the project and immediately started work on it.
Took the cylinders and heads to local Vincent machinist only 3 hrs away.
Crankshaft had been completed ,prior to my purchase, by a Canadian expert and also the tank was painted and done by "Bones".
Then, another Vincent project came up, Then a buddy stopped by and said" Go buy a BMW and lets travel the USA".
Then I got a wild hair and wanted to do the Trans America Trail (TAT). So I purchased a Husqvarna 701E and proceeded to farkle it out for the off road journey. So the Shadow was boxed up for another day.

All that behind, I am now focused on this Shadow project.
The pic above shows the big stuff with a thousand other pieces and projects in boxes.

My goal is a street friendly Black Shadow to ride on a semi daily basis, couple times a week.
 
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oexing

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That seat on the blue bike looks like a Drilastic type - not so great with its rivets in rubber coated textile base. You can still get covers for them but really the Pagusa type is a better choice .
Drilastic Ebay

There are different types of Pagusa constructions and I will get one of them but cannot tell yet what´s best to fit to the Vincent , have not worked out how to. The Earles BMW type got no steel springs but a metalastic element for the driver seat, maybe suitable as well .

Vic
Pagusa rubber seats
 
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craig

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Looking my gear box parts over, I decided that there were too many wear and fit problems.
I ordered new G3, G4, G6 , G18.
Came in today, all issues solved.
New shaft ends slide thru bearings, too much wear on G3 small end, so sloppy on new bush in G4. New G3/G4 fit is perfect.

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craig

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The oil tank (UFM) I was told, was cleaned at a radiator shop for several days in their tank, then flushed clean, then blown air dry. It was then taken to a powder coater and powdered gloss black. It looked okay looking in the fill port, not new, but okay.
So last week I decided to flush this shiny black tank with kerosene to see what would flow out the oil feed at the rear. The flush was very disappointing. lots of dirty kerosene and solids.

So today I pulled the tank off !
5 bolts with tapered nuts, a little difficult to remove. I had to use a Dremel with cut off wheel to remove the powder coat around each hex.

Where is the thread on cutting open an oil tank and cleaning out, then welding back up.??

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craig

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Shadow6621C.jpg

So here is my finished look of a Shadow at this time. Hills stand, electric start, correct color scheme, alloy fenders, chrome steel wheels, stainless spokes, 5" speedo, etc.

This picture is not my Shadow, just a good example for what i want for my project.
My Shadow, Dec 21, 2020, is the first posted picture!
Probable add WP suspension.
Will add VSM brakes on front.
Maybe Amal concentrics and filters.
Maybe a Craven rack.
Miller sealed beam.
LED lighting out the rear.
Alton dynamo, Podtronics reg
Shorai battery stuffed in "EXIDE" plastic box
 
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craig

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My Vincent machinist in the USA is Randy Long in PA.

Randy Long
Long's Mechanical Services
R.D. 1, Box 685-K
74 Risbon Road
Honey Brook PA 19344
610-286-5870

Randy has done a Comet cylinder, head, crankshaft,
Rapide cylinders, heads, crankshaft,
Shadow cylinders, heads
for my personal rider Vincents.
And many others for my work on other Vincents.

He provides machine shop services for many Vincent owners in the USA.
He receives and ships many big machine shop items everyday.
 
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craig

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I would suggest to make it better and safer to use, especially if you are fitting VSM brakes that you fit the modified steering stem, it makes a tremendous difference.
This Girdraulic set is fresh, straight and easily worked right now.
So who what where makes this mod stem please?
Thank you
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timetraveller

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It is me. about two hundred people have fitted the modified steering head with Greg alone having taken about 50 for Australia. I think that everyone who is racing a Vincent with a standard chassis now has this modification but it is not only safer, it is also much more comfortable. For maximum comfort it should be installed together with the rear coil over damper from AVO and a fully sprung rear seat. If you want all the fitting instructions then send me a PM with your email address and I will send you the fitting instructions as either a WORD file or a PDF. Your choice. There is also a hydraulic steering damper kit to go with the modified steering head, or indeed one to go with a standard steering head. There is very little change to the appearance of the bike with the steering head mod and not much change with the hydraulic steering damper as it goes across the bike under the steering head, not fore and aft.
 

craig

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I am currently fitting VSM brakes to the H38/1, 20"front wheel and I have found W5413 cones mated with 09195 races and an alloy spacer (~0.100") behind the 09195. This wheel has not been mounted or used since being built 7 years ago and the hub may have been assembled with handy Vincent parts.

My issue is this front wheel with VSM brake plates appears too wide at the axle 6-3/8".

My Girdraulics want 6-1/8" and the VSM brake plates look like they need to be fitted more fully on the VSM plain axle as well.

Different cone?

I am having to retrain on 067, 074,195,196, H59, H59/1, H22 etc.

Craig

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Gary Gittleson

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My Girdraulics want 6-1/8" and the VSM brake plates look like they need to be fitted more fully on the VSM plain axle as well.

I think I had the same problem fitting the VSM brakes. As I recall, the solution was to get thinner bearings from John Healy. It's been a few years. My memory's developing a nice patina.
 

davidd

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But you can't use it with a sidecar ??, No sidecar trail ?

Although I have sold all the fork stems that I made, they all were designed to use eccentrics and do sidecar work, if the owner chose to do so. I think it was Simon who posed this question on one of the posts on the modified steering stem.

Jim Young used my design in his sidecar rig:

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David
 

vibrac

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Now thats the seat I would like to fit I shall have to look for a Pergusa to modify I have tried it before it was very very comfortable but the supports were lacking I like the look of those shown above

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Chris Launders

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Your mention of a metalastic mount has got me thinking, there would be no rear mount of any sort then. I have a similar sort of seat frame to the Pagusa with a large adjustable central spring, but that has to mount too high.
 

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