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Black Shadow ?

mick the vin

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#1
It Is A Nice Position To Be In But You May Know I Am In The Process
Of Rebuilding A Genuine Black Shadow - No Probs So Far - The Engine Is Being Built By Mr. Dunn And Will Be Black . The Quandary I Have Is The Colour - I Really Fancy A Chinese Red Shadow . I Know It Will Not Be Original But It Wont Be Up For Sale And It Will Only Be A Coat Of Paint - Any Thoughts Or Comments Welcome
 

captain vincent

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Non-VOC Member
#2
Vincent political correctness!

It Is A Nice Position To Be In But You May Know I Am In The Process
Of Rebuilding A Genuine Black Shadow - No Probs So Far - The Engine Is Being Built By Mr. Dunn And Will Be Black . The Quandary I Have Is The Colour - I Really Fancy A Chinese Red Shadow . I Know It Will Not Be Original But It Wont Be Up For Sale And It Will Only Be A Coat Of Paint - Any Thoughts Or Comments Welcome
You cannot call it Chinese Red anymore.The new shade is "Far eastern pagoda office door Red".All my bikes are red excluding my shadow which I was going to do red but changed my mind at the last minute,go for it sod the purists and the wind up value would be terrific!.All the arseholes that come up to you when you are filling up with petrol with the usual "My uncle had a shadow,is red the original colour?" oh what fun you can have when cars are driving up lamposts doing a double take


Regards

El Capitano
 

samueljohn

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VOC Member
#3
Red sheet metal with the Black Engine? Too hot for words. You will be beating them off with a stick. (those that want to touch it, and those that want to strangle you!) Go for it, it is your bike.
J
 

dave g6xnc

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Non-VOC Member
#5
Red!

It may look 'orrible but you should not fear the "purists" as several new bikes were exported to the usa by the factory in chinese red as original finish.
Hope it proves to more reliable than certain other red bikes D,,,,,,,ties!.
dave gs.
 

mercurycrest

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VOC Member
#6
Dear Mick,
You'd have to wonder what was going through someone's mind that would cause them to want to paint a perfectly good motorcycle anything other than black...
Cheers, John
 

Stripped

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Non-VOC Member
#7
Chorus - UB40's Red Red Wine

Red! Red? whine, throw hands in the air.
Paint one Chinese red, when
Vins should be black.

Red! Red? whine. It’s all up to you.
All you can do, you’ve done
So leave it all black.
No, leave it all black.

A vee twin, engine by Dunn
In anything but black wouldn’t leave his shed.
In eastern pagoda office door red,
The wind up, you can expect.

Red! Red? whine, stay way from that
Purist won’t stand alone, it’ll tear them apart
The black, black marque.


<i>Stripped</i>
 
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mick the vin

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Non-VOC Member
#8
Black/red Shadow

THANKS FOR ALL THE COMMENTS REGARDING THE PAINT JOB ON MY TWIN - I
HAVE DECIDED TO PAINT IT CHINESE RED AND QUITE FRANKLY I CAN'T WAIT

I NOW HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION - DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT THE EXACT
COLOUR IS ie PAINT CODE OR CLASSIFICATION AND ALSO A SOURCE

THANKS FOR YOUR HELP

MICK
 

Tom Gaynor

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VOC Member
#10
Red Vincents

Like red wine there are health benefits: red vincents dilate the blood vessels, particularly of people who prefer black. However if Post Office Red does it for you, so be it. Beware: it's a slippery slope: next it'll be Vincents in DHL orange........
 

macvette

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#12
I'm doing up a D but with a red Ducati, red Corvette,red Triumph and a black Yamaha, I tried to balance the books by going with Black:). I think you should paint it the colour you will be happy with. I had mine painted at Cleveland Bike Spray who did a great job. I stripped the bike right down to its individual bits and it's surprising how many there are to paint and how fiddly it is.
Picking up what little chrome there is from Ashington on Mon.

Regards Mac
 

carlm

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#13
Like red wine there are health benefits: red vincents dilate the blood vessels, particularly of people who prefer black. However if Post Office Red does it for you, so be it. Beware: it's a slippery slope: next it'll be Vincents in DHL orange........
DHL is yellow here. eewwww!
Carl
 

mick the vin

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Non-VOC Member
#14
DEFINETLEY GOING TO PAINT IT "CHINESE RED" - NO DHL ORANGE , FERRARI YELLOW , PUKE GREEN OR WHATEVER OTHER COLOUR . DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY IDEA OF THE CORRECT COLOUR CODE SO I DONT HAVE RICHARD BRANSON OR McSH--- (SORRY I MEANT McDONALDS)BREATHING DOWN MY NECK BECAUSE I HAVE PUT THEIR GLOBAL EMPIRE IN JEOPARDY
COME TO THINK OF IT MAYBE IT SHOULD BE THE OTHER WAY ROUND AND WE SHOULD SUE THEM FOR DENIGRATING (I THINK THAT IS THE WORD I MEAN) THE BEST BIKES IN THE WORLD

REGARDS

MICK
 

tonythecat

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#15
Chinese Red

One of the VOC members, a French guy I think, Herve Hamon had a Chinese Red outfit he may help you, anyone got a contact for him?????
 

nkt267

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VOC Member
#18
Skyblue pink,Kenduckety yellow,it does'nt matter 'cos all they'll see is the black spot of the silencer(?) blatting into the distance.Its another vin on the road to be enjoyed/envied.Good luck to you..John . Great Comet owner
 

Rapide

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VOC Member
#19
red

Hi again,

I replied above pointing you in the direction of a website where a Vincent owner in the States had re-painted his bike in its original red color. http://www.patwilliamsracing.com/vincent/ I emailed him on your behalf and here is his response. You can respond to him via the email address on his website.

I will leave you to follow up with him, he certainly looks like he could help you with the task and sounds like a great guy.

All the best: Rapide.




Howdy James,

Thank you sir. Sure you're familiar with the history of the reds used by Vin. They were done in two batches - one of which included PEV's Bristol automobile on his wife's request - and it is very hard to find this color in its correct tint as almost any exposure to sunlight had a tendency to fade it to pink or a pastel type red. Being from Ohio (up North) and immediately oversprayed with black at time of original sale, my machine had all of its original paint preserved in reasonably good condition all things conidering. The black machines were dipped and the paint thicker and less porous whereas the red machines were sprayed using no primers on critical pices (UFM,RFM) requiring clearanced component fitment and thus prone to runs and tremendous variation in film thickness.

The best ubleached...albeit greasey... original paint was on the backs of the brake plates of which I used one of the fronts to get a match which I had mixed up in BASF/Glassurit. If you like I can get the paint code and email it to you. This paint color is almost exactly the same as Porsche Guards Red used for years on 911's.

Would love to get some pics of this project in progress/completion as my site has been far more popular than I envisioned and I plan to start including pictures of other's machines and projects.

Cheerio,
Peter

http://www.patwilliamsracing.com/vincent
 

peterg

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Non-VOC Member
#20
...well Howdy Chaps,

Figured since I'd never got around to registering for the VOC over the years the rarified atmosphere of this chat room was off limits. Anywho, as a text book case for "one is never satisfied" I'm seeking a very crusty Black Shadow to mechanically restore but leave in all its crusty patenaed glory to go along with .......my very RED Chinese Red Touring Rapide mentioned in various posts here. A pic of it forth with as well as a pic of a red touring shadow y'all have probably seen before as reference.

Putting on my painting cap for a moment, I can say in the aftermath (in reference to the challenge not disasterous results, it's been totally rewarding) of this restoration that if you're faced with the daunting task of painting 60 plus pieces run-free one at a time might as well have them visually jump right out at you when finished and in red, one of these machines is lovely to behold in any light - absolutely setting off Vincent's mechanical complexity superbly.

.....now to find it a crusty brother.
 

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